Originally Posted by Wounder
Except it hasn't done a whole lot in preventing scamming, and in fact the dueling rules actually help scammers.
People are now abusing the verified TC sellers function by impersonating them on discord and scamming the USD without even needing a toribash account, so there's no way to punish them.
Do laws against murder prevent murder?
You're saying a rule that doesnt fully prevent what it's trying to prevent should be abolished. Well I'm not saying any rule is perfect but I am saying that without checks and balances, there would be alot more scamming.
also I don't have to prove anything to you and you still havent told me how my activity factors into the validity of my arguements.
Originally Posted by Chirs
Do laws against murder prevent murder?
You're saying a rule that doesnt fully prevent what it's trying to prevent should be abolished. Well I'm not saying any rule is perfect but I am saying that without checks and balances, there would be alot more scamming.
Laws against murder also don't punish the law abiding citizens, and don't help the murderers.
I'm not saying the rules should be abolished, but as of right now they need to be changed.
Originally Posted by Chirs
also I don't have to prove anything to you and you still havent told me how my activity factors into the validity of my arguements.
Notice how people who actually play the game are against these rules, now notice how you barely play the game and these rules do not affect you in any way.
It's exactly like the millionaire celebrities living in gated community's who are for illegal immigration.
Last edited by Wounder; Mar 11, 2019 at 06:09 PM.
Originally Posted by Wounder
Laws against murder also don't punish the law abiding citizens, and don't help the murderers.
I'm not saying the rules should be abolished, but as of right now they need to be changed.
You keep saying this, but I haven’t read a single explainaition on how exactly this rule helps scammers. Not asking in any sarcastic way, but in your opinion, how exactly do these rules help scammers?
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Originally Posted by Wizard
You keep saying this, but I haven’t read a single explainaition on how exactly this rule helps scammers. Not asking in any sarcastic way, but in your opinion, how exactly do these rules help scammers?
Originally Posted by wounder
I believe the rule is totally unfair, and totally IN favor of the scammers, while giving everyone else in the community a headache. Just recently Ceytune/Senu/Tyka has gone around and scammed 3 people in USD duels, and he's free as a bird.
Originally Posted by wounder
someone named 'Asni' has gone around on discord impersonating users like me, diamond, and others, and has scammed upwards of 200$ USD AFTER this whole TC selling reform was implemented without even having an account to ban, so how useful is it really?
This is why I believe these rules are helping scammers. There's absolutely no punishment for either of these things, and the only ones punished are the people who play the game fairly because they can't even sell TC, buy TC without waiting 3 days for someone to open the sellers thread, or duel for USD without having to worry about getting nothing.
The game has taken a drastic downturn within the last year, and it seems nobody cares.
Originally Posted by Wounder
Notice how people who actually play the game are against these rules, now notice how you barely play the game and these rules do not affect you in any way.
It's exactly like the millionaire celebrities living in gated community's who are for illegal immigration.
If you really thought so, you wouldn't have posted this on the forums because surely you know the majority of people in this community do not play the game as much as you guys do.
I think you only want to hear people agree with you and because I am not agreeing with you my opinion is irrelevant.
Originally Posted by Wounder
This is why I believe these rules are helping scammers. There's absolutely no punishment for either of these things, and the only ones punished are the people who play the game fairly because they can't even sell TC, buy TC without waiting 3 days for someone to open the sellers thread, or duel for USD without having to worry about getting nothing.
Do you honestly believe the reason why that person hasnt been banned is because the system allows it? this has to be the dumbest arguement you've brought up yet. It also shows you why the current system is how it is:
The reason you're required to document your sales on the forums BEFORE you do them is because otherwise the staff would have a much harder time deciding who is telling the truth in case a scam does occur. In your example, this guy supposedly scammed people impersonating you or other trusted Sellers. The staff can easily check if he was indeed scammed by checking your threads and seeing that you haven't logged any transactions, while the scammed shows that somebody who looked like he was you scammed him. If you were not required to document your sales, how would the staff decide whose screenshot of a discord chat is altered or real or who's telling the truth? You can alter screenshots, you can fake chatlogs, but you cannot alter forum posts after they are made, the original is always retained.
But okay, you're that convinced that this system is flawed, what alternative do you offer? As it stands according to sir, the current system has reduced the amount of scams, but if you have some other magic system that works better why don't you enlighten us?
Last edited by Chirs; Mar 11, 2019 at 07:17 PM.
