I've been playing CS just as long as I've been playing toribash and I'm really sad to see how much it has gone down hill, it doesn't feel like the same game to me anymore but I still play it often. Cheating has just become a trend in that game now. I use to play any other our I wasn't playing toribash and just bhopping in matchmaking, listening to music, and just chilling. You can't really do that anymore because of the cheaters. Every week I've played a game there's been a cheater and I'm prime. Maybe it's my trust factor, who knows, but it makes me really sad. Toribash > CS:GO