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Why is there no contemporary art in toribash?
While the title may seem shitpost-esque, I'm very interested to see how this thread "goes" and how does everyone feel in regards to this topic.
Why is there no contemporary art in toribash?
I had this question for some time, and couldn't find any reason for it. Contemporary art is meant to break the mould.
So with this concept in mind, why hasn't there been any attempt to "break" it. The barrier, of which I refer to, is the limitations of our canvas, and for this discussion I want to solely focus on the tori, so the in-game aspect of it. While some rules are set, so nothing that is very intrusive/offensive (can't go Andreas Serrano). Ive just wondered, why are there no contemporary sets, just made in various ways. Imagine a set drawn by hand on paper, then scanned and mapped onto a texture. Thats where Im going with my idea. Would collectors be willing to pay more, if the set was made in a pioneering way?
We are currently stuck in renaissance, with no new ideas and a given standard still upheld over the years.
I'm open to any discussion, how this is a dumb idea (or a great one) or maybe even why you'd want to (as an artist) try to do something of such similarity.
**If this gains any interest, I'll further elaborate on it, but for now I'll let a "loose thought" make the thread.
Why is there no contemporary art in toribash?
I had this question for some time, and couldn't find any reason for it. Contemporary art is meant to break the mould.
So with this concept in mind, why hasn't there been any attempt to "break" it. The barrier, of which I refer to, is the limitations of our canvas, and for this discussion I want to solely focus on the tori, so the in-game aspect of it. While some rules are set, so nothing that is very intrusive/offensive (can't go Andreas Serrano). Ive just wondered, why are there no contemporary sets, just made in various ways. Imagine a set drawn by hand on paper, then scanned and mapped onto a texture. Thats where Im going with my idea. Would collectors be willing to pay more, if the set was made in a pioneering way?
We are currently stuck in renaissance, with no new ideas and a given standard still upheld over the years.
I'm open to any discussion, how this is a dumb idea (or a great one) or maybe even why you'd want to (as an artist) try to do something of such similarity.
**If this gains any interest, I'll further elaborate on it, but for now I'll let a "loose thought" make the thread.
Originally Posted by Sunther
Because it would look horrible and very few people would appreciate it here, much less pay for it. Idt any artist here would make a set for toribash solely as just an art piece.
I think avikaa was a great example of an artist, who did conceptual art, wasn't following the usual guidelines, and still sold their sets with ease.
Originally Posted by Goomba
i had a rayman set and a broken black shard set but was threatened bans for both so I'd say the rules are a bit strict nd keep people thinking only about what others are doing for sets
I wish that weren't the case. Some sets, that are in any way transparent could pose issues for certain players. I get that, but I also would love to see more variety.
Originally Posted by Glimpsed
i mean sets designed to be fucking ugly are statements i think
I COMPLETELY agree with you, and I find charm in sets/heads that are made so on purpose.
Originally Posted by Nine
i love sets that are just a bunch or random shit on a tori but its in HD. with that being said. Idc who disagrees. But i cannot STAND those over the top 512 sets that are like this cool ass robot or wtv. its just overplayed. i always like looking at something that is even remotely new.
Originally Posted by Nine
I had an idea of making a full joint set. but every single joint is some random shit that is drawn but matches the same layout as the template. like have a pec texture be a greek baby, while the other pec is a dead seagull. i would pay a arm and leg (HAHAHAHAHA) for something like that
I hope you'll manage to the set one day! maybe read some tutorials how to make jointed sets etc.
I honestly feel we are beyond the "full robot" sets meta, but I still find charm in owning some sets, and occasionally wearing them.
Originally Posted by Alejandro
As an artist, typically an uncompetitive art community leads to stagnation, which leads to creative starvation when it comes even to looks- think for a second, if the very fabric of a tori's aesthetic is so baseline, if usually if you squint things look the same, it's quite a leap to jump to medium experimentation; when we're at a baby level of comprehension on even raw, core looks.
Originally Posted by Alejandro
There is no reward as there is no appreciation, therefore it's not encouraged to innovate, it would require a level of commitment to something so banal that you'd might as well be better off making art without linking it to toribash, as you'd be limiting yourself in a niche, artistically demotivational, and unencouraged market.
I spent dozens of hours on this personal project and my next project is actually very medium dependent as I'm making a full set on ink on paper that I'm going to further digitize and map. But as I do this I know there is absolutely no market, firstly the effort takes a toll on the artist which would then require exponentially higher pays the more experimentational it is, which in an already dry market is laughable as there is a clear shortage of interest, then again in such a superficial world as tends to be video game customization, looks are everything, and you'll get eye rolls from most people if you start talking about how innovative your set it when to most people - it's just a set.
that's my personal view on it of course, interesting question though
When I first saw the project of your CL win arm I literally chuckled, because it's a really fun concept.
Your new project sounds amazing man, I've been thinking of something along those lines for ages. The perception of "just a set" is literally parallel to how people portray modern art, saying it's "just a splatter of paint, I could do that". Real appreciation will come from those, who understand the research, thought process, and how well the outcome came to be. I'm so happy to hear you menion that Alejandro, and i have my fingers crossed for your project.
That's all when it comes to responding to everyone's comments!
I'm very pleased to see people respond, and give their opinions. I'd love to expand this thread, so people could show art that they consider interesting, and maybe even showcase artists who break the mould.
For now, I'll gladly see if anyone else responds, and shows their own projects or give their opinion on whether there is a place for more "modern"/conceptual art to take place in toribash.
i had a rayman set and a broken black shard set but was threatened bans for both so I'd say the rules are a bit strict nd keep people thinking only about what others are doing for sets
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