Toribash
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CMon's Weekly - #1: Computers are bad!
Hello there, I'm CMon. In order to spice up Discussion I'll be trying to put one rant per week which will be open for discussion and debate. And ofcourse, I'll do my best to be relevant.


A couple of days ago I had a neck strain. Even though it made me physically incapable of looking to the left, I didn't tell my parents, or any other elderly authority figures about it. Why, you say?

Because I know exactly what they would reply with. "That's what you get for spending so much time at your computer."

Now, I've been raised in a rather physically active family and community. Even though there are far more computer-attached individuals out there than me, I can, and will be considered the nerd of the herd. (And that's impressive for someone who hardly knows what the word "html" means.) Most days I spend at least a couple of hours in front of the screen, and apparently this is considered a lot. Makes you wonder why nobody thinks of the MMORPG-addicts that have no other daily routines than eat-sleep-poop-grind, but I guess they get largely ignored by the fact that society has a tendency to declare them legally dead.

From the time I was very, very young I had been told that computers are bad. They can injure you physically, mentally, transmorph you into a fastfood-devouring, mic-wheezing blob, and would probably kill you if they had the chance. And to some degree, yes, this is true. However, Mr. PC still has an unwarranted amount of hate coming his way and I can't seem to think of any other reason than the fact that people simply have it in for him.

Just think about it. How many times have you read about terrible school/office/bowling alley gun-massacres without it having been almost instantaneously related to CS, Call of Duty, Halo, or [name your generic brown shooter here]? Literally never, am I correct?

"The kid was the silent type. He never spoke much, but when he did, he seemed normal. It is very disturbing that someone who didn't appear strange at all could go on a shooting rampage like this. I heard he played a lot of BATTLEFIELD 2 THOUGH!" (insert dramatic fanfare)


Well shit, goddamn. I guess we're all doomed then. We've got a billion crazed teens sitting at home playing Gears of War, and they're only one visit to the gunshop away from going murderously berserk! And then there's this super-violent game called Toribash!! How can we be safe when soon, somewhere, there could be a guy named Stephen that goes crazy and starts snapkicking the shit out of everyone?!?

And then there's the physical disadvantages. Any doctor, nutritionist, or educated sane person can tell you that spending 28 hours of your day at the computer is not ideal for your physiological well being, but this is schoolbook stuff, and most people do not infact spend that much time traversing the wonders of the intertubes. And still, it's like they are trying to pin anything they can on Mr. PC here, whatever the relation;
Guy: "I have a headache."
Retard: "Spend less time at your computer."
Guy: "My neck hurts."
Retard: "You shouldn't spend that much time at your computer."
Guy: "I think I might have a back strain."
Retard: "That's because you're sitting so much in front of your computer."
Guy: "I'm tired."
Retard: "Computer."
Guy: "I've had trouble lately with impot-"
Retard: "It's obviously the computer's fault."


For the record, I'm getting a sports-related education and it's not possible to get any sorts of strains or muscle pulls while sitting in front of the computer normally. (Unless you're doing some vigorous fapping workouts, in which case you are excused.) The neck strain I spoke of, I got it while stretching for a ball while playing soccer. But hey, I guess if I spent less time at my computer I would've avoided that, right?

I'm guessing that in time when we actually manage to invent proper AI, Mr. PC is gonna be pretty fucking pissed at us for being such dicks against him and I'll have no problems sympathizing with him when he conquers the Earth and enslaves us all into doing his bidding; I call dibs on polishing his USB-ports.


Sincerely,
~CMon, Semi-Half-Nerd
Last edited by CMon; Sep 24, 2009 at 07:32 PM.
1st, also i have to be on a laptop all day at school then i go home and get on my mac to play toribash, it sucks my eyes feel dry all the time
Well games like counter strike make you reflect faster and strategy games make you think faster. I don't think that games are bad, the only one who can be bad are people and seriously when I was reading this I was really pissed off. Like when I watched "Torturer Game 2 on Fox News". People know shit about computers, and reading books would make your cry more than watching computer. I don't see my monitor flicker 60-100 times per second dude. I'm using computer and I have better sight that a fucking bookworm. Parkinson from CS? Are you fucking retarded? Seriously dude the possibility is 1/10000000. My friend plays WoW for a fuckload of time and he still remembers to eat/drink and shit >.> .
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It's an accepted fact that screens cause eyestrain and headaches. Back/neck strain isn't caused by the screen, it's caused by how you sit. Sit ergonomically and they won't have anything on you. :P

Danvari: It does flicker, and so does your TV. Ever seen a picture taken of a screen? Those stripes? That's them flickering. You're barely a teen (iirc), and you probably don't spend as much time as some do. Your eyesight will probably degenerate (I have no idea if they do that, but eyes hurting must mean that they're getting worse). Also, I'd like you to back up that "possibility is 1/10000000" because I've never seen those numbers before.

Gorman: Back up your shit too, this isn't a playground.
Last edited by dalir; Sep 24, 2009 at 07:14 PM.
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Originally Posted by Dalir View Post
It's an accepted fact that screens cause eyestrain and headaches. Back/neck strain isn't caused by the screen, it's caused by how you sit. Sit ergonomically and they won't have anything on you. :P

How does one sit 'ergonomically'?
[19:39] <Birdflu> I'm just sad that I can't give myself one
[19:39] <Birdflu> I'd have a great time
Originally Posted by Marcoyeh View Post
How does one sit 'ergonomically'?

You follow ergonomic practices. Straight back/neck, legs plain, arms shouldn't be stretched - but the screen should be at least one meter from you (so if you use a laptop, you're screwed (unless you have another keyboard lying around)). Feet should also be touching the ground, but you're not supposed to stretch those either. Standing up while on your computer is also recommended.

^That's all I remember from last years ergonomy.
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Originally Posted by Dalir View Post
You follow ergonomic practices. Straight back/neck, legs plain, arms shouldn't be stretched - but the screen should be at least one meter from you (so if you use a laptop, you're screwed (unless you have another keyboard lying around)). Feet should also be touching the ground, but you're not supposed to stretch those either. Standing up while on your computer is also recommended.

These are pretty awkward practices to follow, standing up whenever you're on the computer? I've never met anyone who does that. I'm not saying I disagree with you, just saying it would be a hassle.
[19:39] <Birdflu> I'm just sad that I can't give myself one
[19:39] <Birdflu> I'd have a great time
Originally Posted by Marcoyeh View Post
These are pretty awkward practices to follow, standing up whenever you're on the computer? I've never met anyone who does that. I'm not saying I disagree with you, just saying it would be a hassle.

Honestly, one meter isn't that much, and I'm sure he actually meant "sitting up straight" rather than standing.
Originally Posted by CoolD00D View Post
Hyper Text Markup Language

Also; Monitors Flicker 60-100s Of Times Per Seconds; Its Like Sitting Infront Of A Window Into A Constant Rave Party. That Shit Can't Be Good For You.
Also; Your Corneas Harden And Get Fixed In Place So You Cant See Good
Also; The Game
Also; Some Games Teach Bad Habbits; Eg CS Twitch Reflex That Basically Gives You Parkinsons Or Playing TF2 Turning You Into A Mentally Deranged Degenerate; Or WoW Making You Forget To Eat/Drink/Shit.

I Had Some Other Point; Oh, Posture.

And Also It Makes Your Brain Think Conventionall; Sapping Creativity By Making You Follow Rigid Rules And Conventions In Games.

I just want to say that if you write Like This One More Time I'm Gonna Kill You.

Originally Posted by Danvari View Post
Well games like counter strike make you reflect faster and strategy games make you think faster. I don't think that games are bad, the only one who can be bad are people and seriously when I was reading this I was really pissed off. Like when I watched "Torturer Game 2 on Fox News". People know shit about computers, and reading books would make your cry more than watching computer. I don't see my monitor flicker 60-100 times per second dude. I'm using computer and I have better sight that a fucking bookworm. Parkinson from CS? Are you fucking retarded? Seriously dude the possibility is 1/10000000. My friend plays WoW for a fuckload of time and he still remembers to eat/drink and shit >.> .

I agree whit you Dan,also torture game 2 is one of the most fun games ever,violent games just help me rage in the game and not in real life.

Per total,computers aren't too bad for me,also Grandma tells me the same thing as the "Person A : My..etc hurts
Person B : Computer"
And that makes me want to make her shut the fuck up.

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Dalir : Monitor is 30 cm away from me.
And i sit whit my legs under my butt,that is bad rite ? D;
Centuries Of Damn
Originally Posted by Marcoyeh View Post
How does one sit 'ergonomically'?

Straight.
ANYWAY.
I usually get a lot of shit just from being tech-savvy so I can't really imagine what it's like to actually know all about how computers work.

Seriously though, just because I can type fast and good, I probably get a comment like:
Kid:"Dude.. you spend WAY too much time on the computer don't you?"
And I really wish I were kidding about that. Computers have helped people a hell of a lot more than they can hurt us. (Unless there's a robot revolution or something, because that's a computer, right?)