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Originally Posted by GenkiSudo View Post
Yes we have canine teeth... However they're pretty small and undeveloped, we have bigger and more developed incisor teeth (much more protuberant than the actual canines) and our molars are definitely not meant to chew raw meat, just like our canines suck when it comes to tearing out the raw flesh.

In short... Our dentition can be seen as versatile. But its certainly intended more towards the vegetables than for raw meat. Just compare our canines to the other great apes!

And just like we see on the food pyramid, meat and fish are simply complementary. Not imperative.



ps: i'm not vegetarian. I'm saying this out of a simple unbiased opinion.

The only reason that we have small canine teeth is not because we are meant to be vegetarians but simply are bodies have adapted to eating 1. Cooked meat and 2. Meat does not have to be torn anymore thanks to the invention of the knife and fork.
Originally Posted by footside View Post
2. Meat does not have to be torn anymore thanks to the invention of the knife and fork.

Very good point as well. We started to become more civilised instead of being a crazy flesh ripping creature.

I think that we have canines, molars, and incisors, simply because we are designed to eat a variety of food; not just meat, and not just vegetables or fruits etc. We are designed to, and need to, eat a balanced diet, as can be seen and that there food pyramid.
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Originally Posted by footside View Post
The only reason that we have small canine teeth is not because we are meant to be vegetarians but simply are bodies have adapted to eating 1. Cooked meat and 2. Meat does not have to be torn anymore thanks to the invention of the knife and fork.

Actually, the reason is more inclined to our hands. Unlike dogs, cats, and platypussies, our hands have the ability to grasp things, which allows us to avoid using our teeth for ripping and using our hands instead. This is implied by the fact that our canine teeth were small thousands of years before the invention of eating utensils.


Also, we can still tear things off with our teeth, just not quite as well as a wolf.
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Originally Posted by jaredvcxz View Post

Also, we can still tear things off with our teeth, just not quite as well as a wolf.

Yes but thats only because, again, we are used to eating cooked meat which tears easier than raw.
Originally Posted by jaredvcxz View Post
Actually, the reason is more inclined to our hands. Unlike dogs, cats, and platypussies, our hands have the ability to grasp things, which allows us to avoid using our teeth for ripping and using our hands instead. This is implied by the fact that our canine teeth were small thousands of years before the invention of eating utensils.


Also, we can still tear things off with our teeth, just not quite as well as a wolf.

You made a good point there... In fact, only our very primitive ancestors display bigger canines. We've been losing them ever since, even before the discovery on how to use and control fire to cook, or the use of tools to make tasks easier.

This is the skull of Lucy, it doesn't look like it has many canine-type of teeth to me...


"Cranial specimens

The cranial evidence recovered from Lucy is far less derived than her postcranium. Her neurocranium is small and primitive, while she possesses more spatulate canines than apes. The cranial capacity was about 375 to 500 cc."
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Originally Posted by GenkiSudo View Post
You made a good point there... In fact, only our very primitive ancestors display bigger canines. We've been losing them ever since, even before the discovery on how to use and control fire to cook, or the use of tools to make tasks easier.

This is the skull of Lucy, it doesn't look like it has many canine-type of teeth to me...


"Cranial specimens

The cranial evidence recovered from Lucy is far less derived than her postcranium. Her neurocranium is small and primitive, while she possesses more spatulate canines than apes. The cranial capacity was about 375 to 500 cc."

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Originally Posted by ivolt View Post
we are still talking about chicks right?

No, we are talking about vegetarianism and why we should/not transfer to that, which had stemmed from the discussion of chicks.

It's all relevant(Or at least mostly)
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Originally Posted by footside View Post
The only reason that we have small canine teeth is not because we are meant to be vegetarians but simply are bodies have adapted to eating 1. Cooked meat and 2. Meat does not have to be torn anymore thanks to the invention of the knife and fork.

I didn't said we were meant to be vegetarians. Read my post again. I'm not even a vegetarian.
I said that both our undeveloped canines and food pyramid tells us that - although we're omnivorous - we're meant to eat far more vegetables than meat. And I do believe that we're eating far too much meat and fish: and we shouldn't eat that much... Along with all the fats, thats a reason why we're getting so many heart diseases nowadays, its our lack of equilibrium and proper diversity that's killing us.
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Originally Posted by GenkiSudo View Post
I didn't said we were meant to be vegetarians. Read my post again. I'm not even a vegetarian.
I said that both our undeveloped canines and food pyramid tells us that - although we're omnivorous - we're meant to eat far more vegetables than meat. And I do believe that we're eating far too much meat and fish: and we shouldn't eat that much... Along with all the fats, thats a reason why we're getting so many heart diseases nowadays, its our lack of equilibrium and proper diversity that's killing us.

An increase in heart disease is mostly because we live long enough for it to matter now. Back in the old days when people died of smallpox all the time and the life expectancy was 40, no one had to worry about hear disease and cancer because something else killed them first.

Also, saturated fats and blah blah blah. But not all meat is high in saturated fats.
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Originally Posted by War_Hero View Post
An increase in heart disease is mostly because we live long enough for it to matter now. Back in the old days when people died of smallpox all the time and the life expectancy was 40, no one had to worry about hear disease and cancer because something else killed them first.

Also, saturated fats and blah blah blah. But not all meat is high in saturated fats.

You know that heart diseases are fucking up younger generations too, so its not about the age. If too much (quality) meat is bad, then imagine all this fast food (and its meat) and how they are fucking up our health.
Plus all the negativity from this insanely mass-scale production is affecting the quality of the meat that we eat. All the bullshit that they force-feed the animals to make them grow quicker is destroying it. Indirectly destroying us.

Too much meat + poor quality meat (mostly plastic food garbage meat) = more heart diseases, bad cholesterol = Unbalanced diets
Last edited by GenkiSudo; Oct 4, 2009 at 04:18 PM.
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