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Originally Posted by footside View Post
How exactly do they put their lives at risk?

Your ignorance of sports is almost amusing.

I could post tons of videos of sports people in near death or fatal situations, but I'll just name a few you can google them or whatever.

Clint Malarchuck Hockey goalie cut in his throat by a skate. Survived
Sam Vasquez MMA fighter died six weeks after a fight
Miklos Feher Soccer player collapsed and died during a match
Mitsuharu Misawa Pro Wrestler died during a match after a routine throw
Ronnie Peterson Formula 1 driver suffered multiple fractions to his legs and third grade burns, didn't survive the surgery to his legs.
I don't watch American football too much but I think almost every year atleast one player dies during a practice or a match because of heat exhaustion, not exactly sure about this.
Almost every contact sport player has suffered atleast mild concussions wich aren't too healthy and some suffer complications(constant headache for example) for the rest of their lives.

Just type sport accident on youtube and you see how these pro athelets put their lives at risk.

I'll continue after I get back from my test.
Originally Posted by hoho123 View Post

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Originally Posted by DaBandito View Post
Your ignorance of sports is almost amusing.

I could post tons of videos of sports people in near death or fatal situations, but I'll just name a few you can google them or whatever.

Clint Malarchuck Hockey goalie cut in his throat by a skate. Survived
Sam Vasquez MMA fighter died six weeks after a fight
Miklos Feher Soccer player collapsed and died during a match
Mitsuharu Misawa Pro Wrestler died during a match after a routine throw
Ronnie Peterson Formula 1 driver suffered multiple fractions to his legs and third grade burns, didn't survive the surgery to his legs.
I don't watch American football too much but I think almost every year atleast one player dies during a practice or a match because of heat exhaustion, not exactly sure about this.
Almost every contact sport player has suffered atleast mild concussions wich aren't too healthy and some suffer complications(constant headache for example) for the rest of their lives.

Just type sport accident on youtube and you see how these pro athelets put their lives at risk.

I'll continue after I get back from my test.

Firstly, half of the deaths you marked he didn't actually pretain to the game, they just occured during a game. Secondly, every job and career has some way for a freak accident to happen so it's no big deal because it's not an abnormal amount of deaths that occur compared to other careers.
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Originally Posted by footside View Post
Firstly, half of the deaths you marked he didn't actually pretain to the game, they just occured during a game. Secondly, every job and career has some way for a freak accident to happen so it's no big deal because it's not an abnormal amount of deaths that occur compared to other careers.

Some jobs obviously have a higher risk then others. i use to work for a accident compensation company and most of the injury's in there were sports related.

anyway i don't see why sports star should be getting less pay there is so much money in the market for entertainment and if you got the talent why not i mean if you were in there shoes i couldn't see any of you complaining about it
Originally Posted by Loachflava View Post
Some jobs obviously have a higher risk then others. i use to work for a accident compensation company and most of the injury's in there were sports related.

anyway i don't see why sports star should be getting less pay there is so much money in the market for entertainment and if you got the talent why not i mean if you were in there shoes i couldn't see any of you complaining about it

That's injuries of course they have more injuries, it's a sport after all. But that doesn't mean it has more deaths. The only sport where death is really a common thing is in racing.
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Originally Posted by footside View Post
That would mean you would be working more to get less of what you deserve. The current system of a set percentage is better.

Because athletes do more work than most factory workers who almost literally break their backs every day. Same thing with those CEOs, no? Fact: working more does not equate more money earned in the free market. In fact, most commonly, the more money you get, the more likely it is that you rarely do any work at all. I wonder how much work Bill Gates did in the last decade...

Originally Posted by sexywittsy View Post
I think they should be paid for what they do because they're entertaining and good at what they do, but I must admit they do get over paid.

Of course, entertainment is a business that is needed in any society, capitalistic or otherwise, and of course people who work, even in entertainment and in the service area must be paid. What I want to know is how much they should be paid.

Originally Posted by SmileyJones View Post
That's why I believe in a progressive income tax. If they make ten million dollars a year, the state should get a very large chunk of it (how much is open to debate and I'm not going there). I wouldn't be making the case for forcing sporting enterprises to cap salaries, but I do think they should pay higher taxes for their salary than people who aren't as well off. But this is a complicated issue, and my brain is mushy right now.

Hmm I really can't see how from the fact that everyone deserves pay for their work leads to a progressive tax. whatever ;p
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Originally Posted by Deprived View Post
Because athletes do more work than most factory workers who almost literally break their backs every day. Same thing with those CEOs, no? Fact: working more does not equate more money earned in the free market. In fact, most commonly, the more money you get, the more likely it is that you rarely do any work at all. I wonder how much work Bill Gates did in the last decade...



Of course, entertainment is a business that is needed in any society, capitalistic or otherwise, and of course people who work, even in entertainment and in the service area must be paid. What I want to know is how much they should be paid.



Hmm I really can't see how from the fact that everyone deserves pay for their work leads to a progressive tax. whatever ;p

How about make a large technological breakthrough that could greatly impact the future?
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Originally Posted by footside View Post
How about make a large technological breakthrough that could greatly impact the future?

Bill gates invented it? Or was it one of the workers under him that did it and he took the credit for it because he was the employer?

tbh I have no idea what you're talking about, if you mean windows, that was more than a decade ago, and I'm pretty sure the software is a tad overpriced, no?
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Originally Posted by footside View Post
Firstly, half of the deaths you marked he didn't actually pretain to the game, they just occured during a game. Secondly, every job and career has some way for a freak accident to happen so it's no big deal because it's not an abnormal amount of deaths that occur compared to other careers.


what?

I'm sure more deaths due to contact sports occur than siting in an office cubicle, or teaching kids, or operating on someone.

I do believe that sports people make a shitload of money, more than they should considering what they do isn't exactly necessary, but they make the money fairly, and we have no right to take that away from them.
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Originally Posted by culapou View Post
I'm sure more deaths due to contact sports occur than siting in an office cubicle, or teaching kids, or operating on someone.

You know in what job you get an even higher chance of death? Police, Military, Mercenary, Bounty Hunter, etc. However I don't see those jobs as exactly the most lucrative ones (maybe bounty hunter/mercenary if you catch someone like Osama bin laden...), wouldn't it make more sense for them, in a fair sense, to be paid more money simply because they take more risk, in your logic?

The thing is, in sports no one wants to intentionally kill each other, or at least, it's not directly supported by the rules of the corresponding sports (the deaths).

Originally Posted by culapou
I do believe that sports people make a shitload of money, more than they should considering what they do isn't exactly necessary, but they make the money fairly, and we have no right to take that away from them.

Isn't that a hypocrisy right there? I'm too lazy to type it out so I'll just put your argument in a premise/conclusion form;

Premise 1: Sports people make too much money because what they do is not "necessary". (Implied; It's not fair that they make that much money)
Premise 2: They make the money fairly.
(Implied) Premise 3: Anyone who makes money fairly deserves to keep it.
Conclusion: You don't have the right to take money away from athletes.

At one time you imply that it's not fair that athletes make that much money - and yet at the same time you say they do it fairly. Perhaps you mean that athletes do work for the entertainment business, and thus are to be compensated/rewarded for their work? Please elaborate, your post is a bit too ambiguous on that argument and I could just be having one of my dumb moments right now by not understanding you.

Originally Posted by SmileyJones
If they pay their taxes, they get the salary. That seems the best way of balancing economic necessities and society's needs anyway.

But the question is how large the salary is - I don't think anyone here doubts that athletes deserve compensation for their work.
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I must say that the amount of money athletes get as a whole is in balance but some salaries of individuals are too high.
As some athletes at a pro level hardly get enough money to live and have to take an another job while others make millions in one year.

The salaries should be distributed more evenly between the whole of the highest peak not just a handful o individuals.

If you don't like sports don't watch it or support it in any other way. You don't have to pay your part of the salaries if you don't want to.
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