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Ban of burqa
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Writing this from my iPod with mega slow connection so I can't be arsed to provide sources (would be nice if someone did it for meh) but I know it's an ongoing debate in Europe. Recently I heard they are going through with it in england. So yeah. What do toribashians think?

Personally I am in favor, despite normally having liberal views. Reason being the security issues that come with allowing people to conceal their identity in public, and few articles of clothing do it better than burqas I think. If I wore a hockey mask and a hood in a public place I would be asked to take it off, and pointing to the fact that it is an ancient (insert cult) tradition would not suffice to keep it on. I am fine with burqas being worn on private properties, houses of worship or Halloween, however
Hell no. Banning an article of clothing that has religious uses is a terrible idea. It will piss off tons of people and limit personal freedom.
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The burqa should be banned in places only where it would be a hazard to the wearer and people around; i.e., in a McDonalds, where the long garment could snag on a fat fryer and easily splash on other workers, or in a factory environment, where it could easily be caught in machinery. The workplace should be a religion-free environment anyway, so that's the only place I could think of where it would actually be necessary to ban them.
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Originally Posted by Xtreme View Post
The burqa should be banned in places only where it would be a hazard to the wearer and people around; i.e., in a McDonalds, where the long garment could snag on a fat fryer and easily splash on other workers, or in a factory environment, where it could easily be caught in machinery. The workplace should be a religion-free environment anyway, so that's the only place I could think of where it would actually be necessary to ban them.

What about places like department stores or banks? If I was a worker there I would be unnerved to see someone whose whole upper body is concealed walking in. It would render them immune to security camera tapes should they commit a crime and escape. Hell, you can't even tell if it's a woman under there or a man, making identifying them that much more difficult.
Last edited by Odlov; Jan 17, 2010 at 09:45 PM.
Originally Posted by Odlov View Post
What about places like department stores or banks? If I was a worker there I would be unnerved to see someone whose whole upper body is concealed walking in. It would render them immune to security camera tapes should they commit a crime and escape. Hell, you can't even tell if it's a woman under there or a man, making identifying them that much more difficult.

I agree with you completely, I was simply using the McDonalds and factory analogies to get the point across. Note that I said the workplace is not a place for religion, not just professions that present an immediate hazard.
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Originally Posted by Odlov View Post
What about places like department stores or banks? If I was a worker there I would be unnerved to see someone whose whole upper body is concealed walking in. It would render them immune to security camera tapes should they commit a crime and escape. Hell, you can't even tell if it's a woman under there or a man, making identifying them that much more difficult.

That has got to be the most ridiculous reasoning I've ever heard. What the fuck does a criminal planning a fucking bank heist care if his face-concealing burqa is illegal. He has a gun with no license in his pocket, as do his friends. Limitations like that do not matter to a criminal intending to knock off a bank. Even if it was outlawed, and you saw a woman walking into a bank with one on you wouldn't think much of it. "It's against the law, she must have just transferred here."

By restricting clothing you only hold back the law-abiding citizens. This is the dumbest shit I've heard in quite some time.