Originally Posted by BlakNWyte
If you want true respect here, swallow your pride and be attentively humble. Treat others with respect, and you will find things start to give back in ways you never thought possible.
That's a very politically correct thing to say, but that's far from what I see. Not to call anyone out or anything, but take jalis for example. I like the guy, and I don't consider him an enemy, but he doesn't offer respect to anyone who isn't "important" enough for it. In fact, he's extremely elitist, and will spit on anyone who doesn't know as much about software as he does. He cursed me out the day we met and I don't even remember what I said. Now let me reiterate, he's not an enemy of mine, but someone who behaves the way he does would not have been placed so high in the social hierarchy here back in 2006-2007.
Then there's the underlying white supremacy of the community I see sometimes (primarily in IRC). Back in-what-2007, early 08', anyone who even implied anything racist, joke or not was immediately blackballed from the community. I can remember "Jewhunter" from the top of my head, oh how we keyboard-raged at him. But now, someone like him could spew the most racist shit ever (in IRC) and just cover himself by pretending he was joking.
Also, people aren't being infracted for flaming anymore in discussion. There are so many internet tough guys in here making a wall of text, but half of it being about how stupid the other guy is.
I mean, with all due respect Blak, this comment was true back in the olden days, but now it's nothing like that. (I'll probably leave again after the shitstorm arrives/passes.)
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Originally Posted by Guv_na
That's a very politically correct thing to say, but that's far from what I see.
I'm not sure what followed was a 'politically correct' statement, but ok.
Not to call anyone out or anything, but take jalis for example. I like the guy, and I don't consider him an enemy, but he doesn't offer respect to anyone who isn't "important" enough for it. In fact, he's extremely elitist, and will spit on anyone who doesn't know as much about software as he does. He cursed me out the day we met and I don't even remember what I said. Now let me reiterate, he's not an enemy of mine, but someone who behaves the way he does would not have been placed so high in the social hierarchy here back in 2006-2007.
High? Because he has 1-2 admin friends? No, most people think he is a rude asshole.
And another thing to prove my point- he will never get power. Sure he has a couple local mods, but those aren't worth squat. He sent in an smod app twice, and they were both rejected. Then he sent in a market squad app, and it was rejected. He's not going anywhere.
Then there's the underlying white supremacy of the community I see sometimes (primarily in IRC). Back in-what-2007, early 08', anyone who even implied anything racist, joke or not was immediately blackballed from the community. I can remember "Jewhunter" from the top of my head, oh how we keyboard-raged at him. But now, someone like him could spew the most racist shit ever (in IRC) and just cover himself by pretending he was joking.
Hmm, from my point of view nothing has changed. Racism is still worth an immediate ban in-game and on the forums. In IRC however, such things are not enforced, understandably so. If it is someone like Kitfox, no one wants to be the buzzkill because we all know he is joking. However if we sense someone is being serious, then yes, action is taken.
Also, people aren't being infracted for flaming anymore in discussion. There are so many internet tough guys in here making a wall of text, but half of it being about how stupid the other guy is.
They are. Maybe you don't see the bold text at the bottom of the posts and conclude that they haven't been infracted, but you can bet they have. I personally have infracted a couple people here recently.
We are also seeking a new discussion local moderator at the moment, which will help.
I mean, with all due respect Blak, this comment was true back in the olden days, but now it's nothing like that. (I'll probably leave again after the shitstorm arrives/passes.)
I was a noob in late '07- early '08, and the community was very helpful I agree. But what do you see now? A whole forum for noobs- a beginner's sanctuary with 10x more people to help now. Things are evolving here, not getting worse.
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