Originally Posted by GenkiSudo
If Australia happened to have the same population size as the USA, they would be even worse than USA...
You should learn a little more about the GHG emissions and role of Australia in the world before making such a conjecture.
Basic understanding of maths wouldn't be bad either.
Originally Posted by YouaredeaD
so australia is the first one?, didnt know anything about it. I thoght Australia emited a normal quantity of gases
Australia has a relatively small population for the land mass and is also responsible for a large portion of mining goods for the world (china for example). Also we export a lot of beef (the cows are probably the leading producers of GHG in australia which isnt even taken into account).
A similar plant producing similar quantities of product in america would yield the same output of GHG but would look far less impactful per capita.
Power consumption of citizens is a very small part of it, and overall out impact is fairly minimal compared to other global powers (not too sure how much the cows produce but I expect its a lot).
There was actually a petition against the culling of rampant flatulent camels in the centre of australia recently.
Last edited by m0o; Feb 5, 2010 at 12:36 PM.
Originally Posted by m0o
You should learn a little more about the GHG emissions and role of Australia in the world before making such a conjecture.
Basic understanding of maths wouldn't be bad either.
I know very well about GHG emissions, thanks anyway. But those graphs are about CO2 only, not general greenhouse gases such as the methane you release when you fart... Or the one released by the large number of feces that result from swine farms and many other animals.
Basic understanding of graphs wouldn't be bad either.
And well I know damn well about the Australian industry's role in pollution, such as the sheep industry, for example. I've read a lot about scandals on disrespectful sheep slaughtering in Australia, and I know how a lot of Australia's CO2 emissions are industry-related.
What I was saying in the above message is that Australia might have a smaller population, but is still able to pollute a LOT, along with the people on average probably being a lot less efficient when it comes to CO2 emissions than many other nations (on average per citizen).
Last edited by GenkiSudo; Feb 5, 2010 at 04:47 PM.
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Originally Posted by GenkiSudo
I know very well about GHG emissions, thanks anyway. But those graphs are about CO2 only, not general greenhouse gases such as the methane you release when you fart... Or the one released by the large number of feces that result from swine farms and many other animals.
Hey cool, if you actually read I said that.
Originally Posted by GenkiSudo
along with the people on average probably being a lot less efficient when it comes to CO2 emissions than many other nations (on average per citizen).
Citation needed?
Originally Posted by m0o
Citation needed?
Ask and you shall receive.
http://www.smh.com.au/news/environme...601374518.html
Highlights:
Australia's emissions of carbon dioxide during the past 25 years have risen at almost twice the world average rate, a CSIRO analysis shows.
Michael Raupach, of CSIRO Marine and Atmospheric Research, said action was needed to reduce emissions and improve efficiency. On these two criteria Australia was "more similar to developing than developed countries," Dr Raupach said.
Australia has 0.32 per cent of the world's population, yet produces 1.43 per cent of carbon dioxide emissions. This means that, per person, pollution levels are 4.5 times the global average, just below the value for the United States, the analysis shows.
Emissions have also been accelerating much faster here than in other developed countries, rising on average at twice the growth rate of the US and Japan, and five times the growth rate of Europe since the early 1980s.
Other developed countries are more efficient at producing energy from the fossil fuels they burn, with Australia using 25 to 30 per cent more fuel per unit of energy produced than the US, Europe and Japan.
Although China's emissions have recently accelerated rapidly, along with its expanding economy, they are still below the global average, said Dr Raupach.
"On average, each person in Australia and the US now emits more than five tonnes of carbon a year, while in China the figure is only one tonne per year.
And a video:
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/126868...australia_co2/
and more citations from: http://www.greenlivingtips.com/blogs...-increase.html
Australia's per person emissions in 2004 were 450% higher than the global average, and only just below the USA. Over the last 25 years the growth rate of Australia's carbon dioxide emissions around double the growth rate for the entire world.
and btw full report at: http://www.csiro.gov.au/news/GlobalC...ject-PNAS.html
"There is enough on earth for everybody's need, but not for everyone's greed." - Mohandas Gandhi
