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Originally Posted by Odlov View Post
Another point I want to add is that it is essentially necessary for a society to embrace it unless it can prevent it globally through treaties and whatnot (yeah right!). If your population stays traditional while other countries are rapidly filling with smarter and stronger citizens, you will eventually be out of competition. Perish. Along with your obsolete values.

That isn't exactly true.

Case study; the Amish. They have essentially shunned modern technology and live as they did 200 years ago. Currently modern technology is flying across at an insane rate, and yet the Amish survive and live happily.

Countries that do not embrace transhumanism will essentially be in the same boat. They may not contribute as much to society, but they will still exist.

I expect that some Western countries that are less religious (ie, not USA), as well as south east Asia will embrace new technology a lot faster than the middle east, and Africa. This is just speculation however.
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Originally Posted by Gorman View Post
That isn't exactly true.

Case study; the Amish. They have essentially shunned modern technology and live as they did 200 years ago. Currently modern technology is flying across at an insane rate, and yet the Amish survive and live happily.

Countries that do not embrace transhumanism will essentially be in the same boat. They may not contribute as much to society, but they will still exist.

I expect that some Western countries that are less religious (ie, not USA), as well as south east Asia will embrace new technology a lot faster than the middle east, and Africa. This is just speculation however.

Oh, get real
Technologically backwards groups like the Amish or Bushmen only exist for as long as they are allowed. Moreover, they are merely small communities within countries which embrace technology and can defend themselves. Try to picture an "Amish country" and how seriously the smarter and stronger world will take their claim to sovereignty.

Even if we assume that countries will respect their primitive neighbor's claim to sovereignty, you have to remember that life poses far more threats than other people. Diseases, viruses, natural disasters, alien invasions. Do you think a country which embraces primitivism will stand the test of time? I certainly wouldn't bet on it.