Originally Posted by Hyde
The difference is elite corporations use that money to create more jobs in industry, after all, who hands out contracts for building new industrial plants, and who gives out jobs at those sites after construction? Last I checked, illegal immigrants are much worse parasites then some corporations.
You are implying that the money corporations save by not paying taxes goes into the pockets of the employees (job creation etc.), which is nonsense. Sure, some of it does, but it primarily enriches those who are already ridiculously wealthy. The disparity of wealth between the ultra rich and everyone else is literally at the level of medieval feudalism (e.g. see work of Gar Alperovitz).
If you want to be taken seriously and convince anyone you will need to use evidence. If you are going to say "last I checked," note what it is that you actually checked. Otherwise it appears you haven't checked anything besides the assumptions you already believe.
Originally Posted by Logic
You are implying that the money corporations save by not paying taxes goes into the pockets of the employees (job creation etc.), which is nonsense. Sure, some of it does, but it primarily enriches those who are already ridiculously wealthy. The disparity of wealth between the ultra rich and everyone else is literally at the level of medieval feudalism (e.g. see work of Gar Alperovitz).
If you want to be taken seriously and convince anyone you will need to use evidence. If you are going to say "last I checked," note what it is that you actually checked. Otherwise it appears you haven't checked anything besides the assumptions you already believe.
Well, you have:
A. Big corporation, creates new jobs in order to gain more an more profit. Takes some money for itself, but its generally beneficial.
B. Illegal immigrant, works very cheap, does not pay taxes, only earns enough for basic necessities.
Ridiculous wealth makes people ambitious, and ambition, as proven by massive companies such as GM, opens factories, and offices, giving work to people, along with sponsorship in the research of many beneficial things such as energy efficient work vehicles.
Call me when an illegal immigrant actually does something good to the economy, and when you stop being so incredibly socialist.
Hoss.
Originally Posted by Hyde
Well, you have:
A. Big corporation, creates new jobs in order to gain more an more profit. Takes some money for itself, but its generally beneficial.
B. Illegal immigrant, works very cheap, does not pay taxes, only earns enough for basic necessities.
Ridiculous wealth makes people ambitious, and ambition, as proven by massive companies such as GM, opens factories, and offices, giving work to people, along with sponsorship in the research of many beneficial things such as energy efficient work vehicles.
Call me when an illegal immigrant actually does something good to the economy, and when you stop being so incredibly socialist.
Actually illegal immigrants would make so little that the government would have to pay to support them.
This way they pay tax, but don't get any benefits. Which is pretty much the best outcome for the economy.
Also I believe Logic already addressed your point;
Originally Posted by Logic
You are implying that the money corporations save by not paying taxes goes into the pockets of the employees (job creation etc.), which is nonsense. Sure, some of it does, but it primarily enriches those who are already ridiculously wealthy. The disparity of wealth between the ultra rich and everyone else is literally at the level of medieval feudalism (e.g. see work of Gar Alperovitz).
If you want to be taken seriously and convince anyone you will need to use evidence. If you are going to say "last I checked," note what it is that you actually checked. Otherwise it appears you haven't checked anything besides the assumptions you already believe.
And he even said, in accordance with Discussion Rules, that you should cite your sources instead of making things up.
Next time do that and try to respond to the person you are arguing against, instead of ignoring them and ranting.
Originally Posted by Gorman
Actually illegal immigrants would make so little that the government would have to pay to support them.
This way they pay tax, but don't get any benefits. Which is pretty much the best outcome for the economy.
That sounds absolutely ridiculous, and you got the entire thing backwards. They get benefits such as medicaid and whatnot.
Also I believe Logic already addressed your point;
And he even said, in accordance with Discussion Rules, that you should cite your sources instead of making things up. You're telling ME what to do?
Next time do that and try to respond to the person you are arguing against, instead of ignoring them and ranting.
Responding is pointless, when the other person is ignorant
Quit being retarded and throw some actual proof my way. Illegal immigration is causing serious problems and it needs to be addressed as such. Please, continue.
Hoss.
Originally Posted by Hyde
and when you stop being so incredibly socialist.
>implying socialism is bad
You can't just tell someone to not have a certain political view. If you do it again, I'm banning you. Your posts in this thread have been pretty shitty. (lets debate politely and with evidence ;o)
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