Originally Posted by Amethon

I am pretty sure not many people sees metal listeners as Satan worshipers..



Good point. He is a pussy though. Getting owned by his own tooth or some shit.



And just how do you know they dance around fires, my good sir :o



I fully agree. But I think some of them has also just had a fucked up life.



I do not.
Why fight the power if it works?



You must know a lot of racoons.



Satan actually gives you stuff instead of demanding stuff, OMG!
The catch is just that you will go to hell. Gg.
God does not ask for your life until the end. He asks you to follow some rules untill you die after 70 years or so. Then you get infinite life in paradise, with everything you could ever imagine, plus a lot of other awesome stuff.

So what I am trying to point out is that you have 70 years of servace in exchange of infinite life with everything you want, in the one hand. In the other hand you have 70 years of being shit to other people and having sick thoughts, in exchange for giving your soul to the devil, and go to hell.

I would personally choose the first offer, would you not?

Lucifer was not a bad angel before after some time, therefore it was not God's fault that he became what he is today.

Also, if Lucifer had not turned out the way he did, there would be no need for God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit. If there was no need for them, then there would be no Christianity (which would suck in my opinion), and that would mean that there was nothing to live for, because the human would not know love, respect, friendship or anything else. Without those abillities the human would not be able to go to Heaven, because they cannot love their next and they cannot respect their parents.

Originally Posted by Hyde

The stupidity in that made me lol. You assume that the world is the way it is because of christianity? It is the way it is despite christianity >_>(I can write an essay on this fucking topic alone) There are plenty of reasons for me to live, love, and respect apart from the suggestion that an invisible skyman is watching everything I do. Are you arrogant or what. And even if that was not the case, there are multiple other faiths, and even some which worship the sun. At least you can see the sun, it grants your prayers at the same rate as god.

Regardless of your beliefs, immortal life is not very appealing to me, whether it be in some shiny mansion in the sky, or a flaming lake somewhere below the earth(possibly underneath jerusalem, or maybe moscow \o/)

Besides, have you personally burned for all eternity? No? Well its fucking exhilarating. What would remotely disturb me is if 'Satan' was one of those pesky timeshare people.

Originally Posted by Amethon

What the fuck is that? >_<
I see your point in it though. Not a very good point however. Yes, this is a part of being a christian. Obeying God. But the rules he has made is good rules, that will only positively improve your personality. If everyone lived like Jesus did, then world would be paradise. He obeyed God.

Originally Posted by Amethon

What the fuck is that? >_<
I see your point in it though. Not a very good point however. Yes, this is a part of being a christian. Obeying God. But the rules he has made is good rules, that will only positively improve your personality. If everyone lived like Jesus did, then world would be paradise. He obeyed God.



Please write me that essay, and I will take it into consideration, and we can make a nice little debate out of it.

Why is the immortal life with everything you want, together with everyone you love, unappealing to you? That is probably the biggest wish of many people.

No, I don't burn after getting immortal life. I burn after getting accepted by God, as a confirmation that what I have done is the right thing to do.

Originally Posted by Dalliance

So killing homosexuals is a positive thing?

Originally Posted by DooomByte

He is cool because he KICKS ASS!!!

Originally Posted by Hyde

First, lets start off by explaining why immortal life is not appealing to me. Its boring. Imagine living forever, and think about it, even if it was with your loved ones, the sheer fact that you exist only to exist would take a greater toll on my mentality then any form of punishment I am being "threatened" with, if my behavior and experiences in life deviate from what this all-knowing skyman wants me to experience. I assume you, obviously a christian, assume that no other religion except yours is correct. Satan is not, nor has ever been a genuine christian invention. The fact that you assume he is sitting in a burning lake waiting to torture people who have deviated from the skyman's "good life" points towards a lack of deep understanding and the ability to interpret one's own faith. Do you honestly think that the moral values of every living human can be closely watched by an almighty being? Or is it possible that those moral values were given out in a time when barbarians pillaged and plundered the roman empire, raping women and destroying life, in order to calm everything down? Christianity became an established religion around the 4th century, due to the fact that it made controlling people much easier then the prominent polytheistic religions of the time. The moral values were tossed in to guide people through a more peaceful life, with less suffering for everyone(then it got out of control and everyone suffered), and made them believe they were working for the greater good. You, my friend, have been drinking from the bunch bowl at the cult meeting if you take all those stories as fact.

Let me explain how the moral values implemented by Christianity made it possible for the roman emperor's to strike fear in the heart of your average barbarian(everyone except romans, hurpdurp) at the time. If you tell them that if they continue to kill people, rape women, and loot villages, they will spend eternity in a flaming lake where a man with horns, red skin(oh god, oh god), and a tail with an odd spike at the end is going to torture them, they are going to attempt to follow these moral values in order to avoid this. Barbarians were not the smartest people, as you can assume, therefore, this would work in distracting them, or entirely stopping them from fucking shit up.

Now then, lets move on to why Christianity, and religion in general has attempted to halt any advancements that might lead to a revelation that they are not correct. Lets start with the most well known case; Galileo. Galileo's discoveries contradicted what religion claimed at the time, and they attempted to crush him and his studies in the name of the "lord", because he was spewing lies(or so they claimed). Religion, throughout most known history, has been humanity's way of attempting to make everyone happy, but people are too stupid to make the system work over a long period of time, and it eventually collapses on itself and causes great tragedies. Christianity has played a murderous, torturous, and even a role that I would consider satanic in history. If you were not aware, Christianity has allowed, and even rooted on great travesties such as the spanish inquisition. The fact that a religion such as Christianity is an institutionalized organization, instead of just a dogma which you may or may not accept points to questions about its legitimacy.

Also, Spartacus was crucified for much nobler ideals then Jesus(maybe he was just a terrible carpenter.)

I am willing to write an essay on the topic, but only if you are willing to take some time to think seriously about the matter. I am not trying to influence your beliefs, I'm just trying to prove them wrong \o/

Originally Posted by Amethon

No, it is not. Personaly I don't really have anything against homosexuals.
The new testament says that homosexuals has already gotten their punishment, so no, it shouldn't be necessary to kil them. I would also like to say, that I stick to the new testament. Not the old one. I'm protestantic not jewish (no offense).
Also, please don't get me into this discussion, unless you want me banned.



Would you please just GET OUT OF HERE!? GAH! That's like the third time you come with a total useless comment.



I will probably get banned if I say that christianity is the only true religion, but yes, that is how it is. I'm sure there are other religions that says the same though. Having immortal life, isn't existing without a purpose. You can still serve God, and be with your loved ones, which is the true purpose of life.

Yes, I do believe that God watches over us, and decides our destiny.

Just so you know, I will not agree with you in anything, if you keep trying to prove christianity wrong, I will keep defending my belief.
There is only one thing I can agree with you in. Some of the things done in the name of God has been wrong, but that is the individual persons own fault, for not understanding the "guidelines". There are still some of these extremists around in the world, and they should be helped to understand their real purpose.

No matter what Spartacus sacrificed himself for, it will never be nobler than what Jesus did. He sacrificed himself for the humanity, to take all their sins with him, so they could be forgiven for everything they had done wrong.
You should try watching the movie made by Mel Gibson. I don't remember the name but it's the life of Jesus. In a short version. It's a good movie, and I think you will understand why I am defending the christian side, a bit better.

Also, by trying to prove my beliefs wrong, you are trying to influence my beliefs.

Originally Posted by Amethon

No, it is not. Personaly I don't really have anything against homosexuals.
The new testament says that homosexuals has already gotten their punishment, so no, it shouldn't be necessary to kil them.

I would also like to say, that I stick to the new testament. Not the old one. I'm protestantic not jewish (no offense).

I will probably get banned if I say that christianity is the only true religion, but yes, that is how it is. I'm sure there are other religions that says the same though.

Having immortal life, isn't existing without a purpose. You can still serve God, and be with your loved ones, which is the true purpose of life.

Yes, I do believe that God watches over us, and decides our destiny.

Just so you know, I will not agree with you in anything, if you keep trying to prove christianity wrong, I will keep defending my belief.

There is only one thing I can agree with you in. Some of the things done in the name of God has been wrong, but that is the individual persons own fault, for not understanding the "guidelines". There are still some of these extremists around in the world, and they should be helped to understand their real purpose.

No matter what Spartacus sacrificed himself for, it will never be nobler than what Jesus did. He sacrificed himself for the humanity, to take all their sins with him, so they could be forgiven for everything they had done wrong.

You should try watching the movie made by Mel Gibson. I don't remember the name but it's the life of Jesus. In a short version. It's a good movie, and I think you will understand why I am defending the christian side, a bit better.

Also, by trying to prove my beliefs wrong, you are trying to influence my beliefs.