HTOTM: FUSION
Looks like the seal team 6 squad that took out bin laden is 'dead'.(the 'dead' part means that I think that they were just given passports and sent to different countries, being declared as dead, so no one would harm them or their families, quite a large sacrifice.)

Call in the tactical nukes, osama bin laden has struck from the dead.
Hoss.
Originally Posted by Hyde View Post
Looks like the seal team 6 squad that took out bin laden is 'dead'.(the 'dead' part means that I think that they were just given passports and sent to different countries, being declared as dead, so no one would harm them or their families, quite a large sacrifice.)

Call in the tactical nukes, osama bin laden has struck from the dead.

Perhaps Osama was never killed in the first place, and was just given passports and sent to different countries, being declared as dead, so no one would harm him or his family, quite a large sacrifice.
Originally Posted by Gorman View Post
Perhaps Osama was never killed in the first place, and was just given passports and sent to different countries, being declared as dead, so no one would harm him or his family, quite a large sacrifice.

That would have happened much sooner, if at all. 10 years since that dreadful day, and 12 years since the last attempt at his life, the tomohawk missle during the clinton administration. The SEALs and their families were obviously targets of the terror groups. The story just does not add up. Squad Team Six in chinooks?

Please stop trolling. I am very offended by the fact that you compared a lot of brave men and women and their families to a fucking cunt like bin laden. You are trying to provoke me to cuss you out by being ignorant and attacking such a touchy issue. There is a ton of emotion involved with it, and you are just one of those people who enjoy fueling it. I'm restricting my language, and you should know by now about what I think of you.
Hoss.
Originally Posted by Hyde View Post
That would have happened much sooner, if at all. 10 years since that dreadful day, and 12 years since the last attempt at his life, the tomohawk missle during the clinton administration. The SEALs and their families were obviously targets of the terror groups. The story just does not add up. Squad Team Six in chinooks?

Please stop trolling. I am very offended by the fact that you compared a lot of brave men and women and their families to a fucking cunt like bin laden. You are trying to provoke me to cuss you out by being ignorant and attacking such a touchy issue. There is a ton of emotion involved with it, and you are just one of those people who enjoy fueling it. I'm restricting my language, and you should know by now about what I think of you.

The US military is thousands of times more malevolent than Bin Laden ever was, Bin Laden sent a few planes into a few buildings, suddenly he is the most wanted man in the world.
So the US responds by going into Iraq and Afghanistan, slaughtering thousands upon thousands of civillians then assassinating Bin Laden and declaring Job Well Done, that is fucked up. Also in the process of this chilidish revenge America alone, ruined the Global Financial Market, so not only did they destroy Iraq and Afghanistan, their petty war has had negative consequences on the entire world. This is why the world hates America, for their own selfish pursuit of blood and oil, has fucked up every country on Earth. Almost every country on Earth has a financial deficit now, it is amazing that you Americans think this war was justified, are you too blind to see the negative effect that the US is having on the world? Do you not realise this war was entirely America's fault. Osama Bin Laden's death shows what extent America will go to inorder to fulfill trivial pursuits.
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Originally Posted by Hyde View Post
That would have happened much sooner, if at all. 10 years since that dreadful day, and 12 years since the last attempt at his life, the tomohawk missle during the clinton administration. The SEALs and their families were obviously targets of the terror groups. The story just does not add up. Squad Team Six in chinooks?

Please stop trolling. I am very offended by the fact that you compared a lot of brave men and women and their families to a fucking cunt like bin laden. You are trying to provoke me to cuss you out by being ignorant and attacking such a touchy issue. There is a ton of emotion involved with it, and you are just one of those people who enjoy fueling it. I'm restricting my language, and you should know by now about what I think of you.

Firstly, Bin Laden only took responsibility for 9/11 in 03, so take that in to consideration.

Secondly, I don't make a distinction between the life of an Iraq civilian, and their families, and the life of an American civilian, and their families.

I am offended that you seem to think of them as lower than dirt, and you don't even flinch that nearly a million civilians were slaughtered by US forces in their hunt for Bin Laden.

Your American culture disgusts me, in that you could even think of treating people this way. And that you would think that anyone who disagrees with you is a troll. Truly you are the ignorant one, defending your pathetic and despicable barbarian country instead of admitting the problems and striving for change.

Before you call someone a 'fucking cunt' for killing a few civilians, you should consider that your government has killed more than a thousand times as many in revenge, surely they have their pound of flesh.
Originally Posted by Gorman View Post
Firstly, Bin Laden only took responsibility for 9/11 in 03, so take that in to consideration.
You call America malevolent. These people(terrorists) go out there with the intention to murder as many as possible. US troops do not go out to the field thinking "I'ma kill me as many of them muslim 'terrorists' as possible". US troops actually hope to entirely avoid conflict. Would you want some crazy idiots running at you holding 5 gernades with the pins on their pinkies? America has good intentions, in terms of allowing the people to 'have a choice'. Osama Bin Laden was not only behind a single attack. He funded every single attack on innocence that has ever been taken by Al Qaeda. Talk about malevolent intentions.

Secondly, I don't make a distinction between the life of an Iraq civilian, and their families, and the life of an American civilian, and their families.
I don't either. But when you set rules into place, and they don't follow them in a warzone, they die. Would anyone else give us less of a restriction?

I am offended that you seem to think of them as lower than dirt, and you don't even flinch that nearly a million civilians were slaughtered by US forces in their hunt for Bin Laden.
A million seems to be a number that you just pulled out of your ass. Civilian casualties and insurgent kills fall into a similar category, and sometimes, are unable to be distinguished. Also, 'slaughtered' does not seem like a good work to describe civilian deaths in the hunt for Bin Laden.

Your American culture disgusts me, in that you could even think of treating people this way. And that you would think that anyone who disagrees with you is a troll. Truly you are the ignorant one, defending your pathetic and despicable barbarian country instead of admitting the problems and striving for change.
Why do you assume the military has anything to do with american culture? Treating people in what way, per say? You are not a troll for disagreeing with me, you are a troll for disagreeing with me with the intent of being an insensitive asshole.

Before you call someone a 'fucking cunt' for killing a few civilians, you should consider that your government has killed more than a thousand times as many in revenge, surely they have their pound of flesh.
One person with malevolent intentions, and an established institution wishing to protect its citizens are two very different things. Bin Laden's motives were sheerly to cause death. Ours were not.

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Hoss.
Originally Posted by Hyde View Post
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Your ignorance is borderline offensive. The whole world saw America throw all of the toys out of the pram over one terrorist attack, resulting in the deaths of many Afghans and Iraqis. Sooner or later, the US will have to take responsibility for the mass murder of thousands, including many of their own soldiers who died to fulfill a childish crusade in the name of revenge. Any american proud of the stars and stripes at the moment is a moron. The crass, bullish ignorance of america makes the rest of us ashamed to share the English language with you.
Originally Posted by Hyde View Post
You call America malevolent. These people(terrorists) go out there with the intention to murder as many as possible. US troops do not go out to the field thinking "I'ma kill me as many of them muslim 'terrorists' as possible". US troops actually hope to entirely avoid conflict. Would you want some crazy idiots running at you holding 5 gernades with the pins on their pinkies? America has good intentions, in terms of allowing the people to 'have a choice'. Osama Bin Laden was not only behind a single attack. He funded every single attack on innocence that has ever been taken by Al Qaeda. Talk about malevolent intentions.
America has selfish blood thirsty intentions, nothing more than that.
Al Qaeda has a political agenda that I don't think I should have to explain to you, you should read it by yourself rather than just saying "omg al qeeda just want to kill people"


I don't either. But when you set rules into place, and they don't follow them in a warzone, they die. Would anyone else give us less of a restriction?
Actually the US does not recognize Iraq as a war-zone, which is why they did use carpet bombing and torture. They literally had no restrictions, they recognized the entirety of Iraq as being hostile.

A million seems to be a number that you just pulled out of your ass. Civilian casualties and insurgent kills fall into a similar category, and sometimes, are unable to be distinguished. Also, 'slaughtered' does not seem like a good work to describe civilian deaths in the hunt for Bin Laden.
Slaughtered is the correct term, how is multimillion dollar gunships and drones even slightly comparable to a few national guard armed with ancient AKs? No Hyde, slaughter is highly accurate.

Why do you assume the military has anything to do with american culture? Treating people in what way, per say? You are not a troll for disagreeing with me, you are a troll for disagreeing with me with the intent of being an insensitive asshole.
Yes, because Americans supporting (and laughably trying to justify) their military actions is not cultural... Nice try!

One person with malevolent intentions, and an established institution wishing to protect its citizens are two very different things. Bin Laden's motives were sheerly to cause death. Ours were not.
"Wishing to protect its citizens" haha. The US's actions had nothing to do with protection, they actively invaded several countries, they didn't move to peacefully settle the disagreement. Once again you try to propagate the myth that Al Queda's goal was simply to kill people...

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Originally Posted by Hyde View Post
You call America malevolent. These people(terrorists) go out there with the intention to murder as many as possible. US troops do not go out to the field thinking "I'ma kill me as many of them muslim 'terrorists' as possible". US troops actually hope to entirely avoid conflict. Would you want some crazy idiots running at you holding 5 gernades with the pins on their pinkies? America has good intentions, in terms of allowing the people to 'have a choice'. Osama Bin Laden was not only behind a single attack. He funded every single attack on innocence that has ever been taken by Al Qaeda. Talk about malevolent intentions.

I don't either. But when you set rules into place, and they don't follow them in a warzone, they die. Would anyone else give us less of a restriction?

A million seems to be a number that you just pulled out of your ass. Civilian casualties and insurgent kills fall into a similar category, and sometimes, are unable to be distinguished. Also, 'slaughtered' does not seem like a good work to describe civilian deaths in the hunt for Bin Laden.

Why do you assume the military has anything to do with american culture? Treating people in what way, per say? You are not a troll for disagreeing with me, you are a troll for disagreeing with me with the intent of being an insensitive asshole.

One person with malevolent intentions, and an established institution wishing to protect its citizens are two very different things. Bin Laden's motives were sheerly to cause death. Ours were not.

I love the words of a die hard patriot. The irony in these statements would be funny if I didn't suspect you were dead serious.

One, you seem to be under the impression that these are a bunch of maniacs running around with the sole intent to spill blood. These are people who believe in their cause, and that their violence is justified for the sake of their cause. This is no different from almost any other American. Americans believe that they are fighting a war on terrorism, and therefore that makes their violence against another person justified for them. Islamist terrorist groups believe that they are fighting against an oppressive Western regime, and therefore their violence is justified in their eyes.

Two, YOU set rules, why do THEY have to follow them? Or maybe THEY set the rules, and YOU are just being a sore loser when you can't play to the rules. This is a guerilla war, and America is tramping around like a moron, doing the exact opposite of what it needs to do to win a guerilla war, by fighting a conventional war. By doing so, they're guarenteed to kill more civilians than enemy combatants. So actually, your "rules" are more fake than the reason we started this war in the first place. The real rules are being played by the enemy, and America is too clueless to adapt to the new ruleset.

Three, you just equated civilian deaths to combatant deaths. That's just plain retarded of you. Civilian =/= combatant regardless of the situation. Just because you can't distinguish between the two, doesn't mean they are one and the same. Using that logic, you might as well just nuke the country and call it a job well done. After all, all those Muslims looked so darn similar, you might as well kill them all just to be safe.

Four, I'm not even going to try explaining how American culture is influenced by the military. If you can't see it by now by yourself, you're either blind and deaf, or have your head stuck in the sand.

Five, Osama isn't trying to protect his fellow citizens? Again, you have to understand the insurgency before you start mouthing off about them. They are fighting against Western influence, therefore they view this "war" America started as an invasion. Fighting against this invading force is the only way they can protect their citizens from the Western taint in their eyes.

Six, of course America's motives weren't only to cause death. There's a lot of oil there too. It's no coincidence that all the oil contracts for the region were switched from Russian and Chinese companies to British and American companies after the invasion. America is anything but angelic in this conflict.
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