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Yes without humans, or other beings, maths is not very useful , but the same applies to physics.

You're taking this analogy a little bit too far. The laws of maths are true and exist regardless of the existence of humans. I'm just giving an example.

Lets say maths is a robot then physics would be like one of the modules that tell it what to do, i.e: giving it missions. There are many of these modules and without anything to do maths would be not very usefull but then again the module without the robot is just as useless.
Even if one of the modules is taken down, there are many more modules (i.e: economics, chemistry, biology, almost everything) that uses maths. If the robot disappears however, the module has nothing to do since there is no substitute to maths. You can't find another way to calculate stuff because the calculation of stuff itself is maths. (amongst lots of other applications)

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Originally Posted by MrAakash View Post
Yes without humans, or other beings, maths is not very useful , but the same applies to physics.

You're taking this analogy a little bit too far. The laws of maths are true and exist regardless of the existence of humans. I'm just giving an example.

Lets say maths is a robot then physics would be like one of the modules that tell it what to do, i.e: giving it missions. There are many of these modules and without anything to do maths would be not very usefull but then again the module without the robot is just as useless.
Even if one of the modules is taken down, there are many more modules (i.e: economics, chemistry, biology, almost everything) that uses maths. If the robot disappears however, the module has nothing to do since there is no substitute to maths. You can't find another way to calculate stuff because the calculation of stuff itself is maths. (amongst lots of other applications)

We've dealt with this problem before. There's the laws, then there's understanding the laws.

Yes, math is integral for the understanding of these laws, but it is the laws themselves that govern how we understand them. The human brain is ruled by the laws of physics, and without them, we wouldn't be here.
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Originally Posted by AikidoKP View Post
We've dealt with this problem before. There's the laws, then there's understanding the laws.

Yes, math is integral for the understanding of these laws, but it is the laws themselves that govern how we understand them. The human brain is ruled by the laws of physics, and without them, we wouldn't be here.

I'm talking about the study of the subject. You're talking about something else. If there were no laws of physics sure there would be no way for things to work the universe as we know it might collapse, but all the laws of physics are in some way based on numbers and at the end of the day everything that exists can boil down to numbers in one way or another. Using the same logic, if numbers didn't exist physics wouldn't work in the slightest, and the same thing would happen.

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