Originally Posted by oofun4
bro , if u want it to look more realstic , use Carbon pencil , it will make ur drawing so better
Nah man, anime/manga isn't really a realism thing. I mean you can do it, but it's not my style. Thanks for the advise though! I might use it in some scenery pictures!
Originally Posted by Hayz
There are some masterpieces around here.
Excellent job, bro... can't wait to see more of them.
Hey thanks! It's really nice to hear from you again! And nice to see you back as well. Call me maybe?;o
And I should have another picture by Monday. Maybe.
Originally Posted by Hacks
Nah man, anime/manga isn't really a realism thing. I mean you can do it, but it's not my style. Thanks for the advise though! I might use it in some scenery pictures!
But it can be, the style is already based of comic realism already, charcoal pencils provide better contrast, which you need, and when used with a putty eraser, make for interesting shading and lighting schemes.
generally consider using softer pencils, a softer one would make for better outlines and better contrast.
either way, you need to move away from using an HB pencil. your colours and contrast are way too soft
Originally Posted by Hacks
I don't own a carbon pencil. I own a charcoal pencil.
I wouldn't use it either way, I don't want realistic drawings. I like cartoon style drawings.
carbon and charcoal pencils are the same thing.
however, charcoal pencils and regular pencils are not the same thing.
not wanting realistic pieces or wanting to stick to "cartoon" style stuff is just silly. theres nothing wrong with improving and learning, cartoons/manga work applies many more techniques than what you are using, and moving to charcoal and ink would actually be a step in the right direction to improve your current style.
overall, your linework is good, which is the most important part in manga stuff. your proportions and shaping of certain pieces seems well off though.
are you tracing existing pieces? it looks like it, your lack of technique shows your lack of experience, but the composition/arrangement of the characters says otherwise. your work contradicts itself.
Last edited by BenDover; Jul 9, 2012 at 11:55 PM.
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Originally Posted by BenDover
But it can be, the style is already based of comic realism already, charcoal pencils provide better contrast, which you need, and when used with a putty eraser, make for interesting shading and lighting schemes.
generally consider using softer pencils, a softer one would make for better outlines and better contrast.
either way, you need to move away from using an HB pencil. your colours and contrast are way too soft
carbon and charcoal pencils are the same thing.
however, charcoal pencils and regular pencils are not the same thing.
not wanting realistic pieces or wanting to stick to "cartoon" style stuff is just silly. theres nothing wrong with improving and learning, cartoons/manga work applies many more techniques than what you are using, and moving to charcoal and ink would actually be a step in the right direction to improve your current style.
overall, your linework is good, which is the most important part in manga stuff. your proportions and shaping of certain pieces seems well off though.
are you tracing existing pieces? it looks like it, your lack of technique shows your lack of experience, but the composition/arrangement of the characters says otherwise. your work contradicts itself.
Thank you for the comment! I was waiting for something like this!
I might try out and use a charcoal pencil. If it will help expand what I already know. I really don't like the idea of it though, I'm not sure if I could erase what I shade, and I'm not exactly sure how to even use them. I'll have to look it up or something. I'm actually curious on seeing what I can use.
And no, I didn't trace them from existing pieces, the first photo I made was based off a 'somewhat-famous' piece, but I didn't trace it. I have never traced a drawing, but I have looked at some and put it on paper. But I will really work on my technique on what I draw! I want to become better; and I know I really have a lack of experience, I haven't been seriously drawing for all that long. I started sitting down on my drawings and actually trying my hardest for about one and a half years. I just recently read up on shading my drawings and also watching video's from a illustrator that lives about 10 miles from me. I am also a somewhat on a friend bases with him, I can always ask questions if I wanted too. He's who I went to when I wanted to expand what I already knew on my drawings, such as shading and proportion.
And can you show me where my proportions and shaping are off? I'm still not great with body work(arm's and legs). I started out mastering the head and clothing, but I'm still amateur at best when it comes to arms/legs/hands etc.
PS: BenDover, I know I might have hard lines only because when I shade, it's dark. My lines are very light when I draw them at first. So when I'm done, I go back through with a hard sketch. Which give's it the look like it does
And thank you for comments guys! (Especially you Ben! Really helped, hope you can reply again!)
Last edited by Hacks; Jul 10, 2012 at 12:52 AM.