Aikido is a great gamemode. Unfortunately some people get upset because of "shoveling", and well. I didn't even know what that was like a few days ago, but then I noticed that a lot of people are doing that in Aikido and it kills the fun a lil bit.

So I played vs many people that are using that "Aikido-Shovel-Style" and tried to find out whats the best thing to do if you're getting pushed out of the ring.

While doing that, I mostly noticed that the easiest way to still win the game is trying to DQ the shovelers wrist. Just check the replay out, and you'll see what I mean. Pay attention to his hand.

I don't want you to rate the replay, because I know it's nothing that special. I'd much rather like to start a discussion about the whole "Aikido-Shoveling" thing.

1. it's effective

2. it's not against any official rules.

So, if you want to win and shoveling is a way to do that you'd be pretty thick not to use it unless there's an even better way.

If you simply want to play for fun and think that shoveling defeats that purpose then by all means don't use it. Just remember that the ones shoveling aren't noobs, you are, for telling them it's cheap just because you couldn't counter it.

(This isn't meant towards Galrath as he clearly has a counter already, but to the future whiners of this thread who whine about shoveling because they usually lose to it.)

They are. At least I never see a good player shoveling or a shoveler do anything good in aikido. Normally you have a shoveler beaten if his initial lifting attempt fails. They have no idea about how to move in aikido and will never learn it because they do everytime the exactly same thing.
You can't get better at maths by calculating 2+2 100 times a day, why should using the same move everytime you play make you better?

1. it's not effective
2.it's lame
3.shovelers are also lame

1. It must be at least a bit effective as so many people use it.

The other two are just opinions so I'll ignore them.

if anyone knows an easy move to use against shovelers, it would be very welcome

It has been a while since i played Aikido but i looked through my old replays and found this, but you have do know hes going to shovel here.

lol neck fracture, if you know how to do it you can counter with a spinning head kick. its hard though

Dark, had he been more experienced, he could have just bent his body.

I just try to trow shovelers off balance, but that wrist idea is a good one, galrath.

When getting shoveled just hoof them in the guts, a hard enough kick'll fracture enough to drop them in a heap.