Originally Posted by dannyrug
Religion isn't the reason we have war. There have been wars for religious purposes, but did the US go to war with Iraq because of Christianity. Did the war of 1812 have to do with religion, did the war for independence have to do with religion, and this goes for many countries and continents. Religion is not the soul purpose for war. In my opinion war is started by the visionaries and the corrupt.
I totally agree with you. But please, admit. There was a lot of wars because of religion, and one of the most terrible one was because of religion. The Holocaust. Yes 60% of the wars is because of money, corruption, and politics. But the others 35% are because of religion. The 5% left is just because if random shits that the countries create to have problems and probably, get some money from them.
Originally Posted by boStaff
i love how edgy atheists think that religion is all about war and delusion
have you guys ever even met a religious person? they're exactly like us if not nicer and more well-adjusted
you folks need to learn to tolerate because you're doing to them essentially what they did to you
religion doesn't cause wars, people in power manipulating religion causes wars
go outside for once and stop circlejerking over your superiority complexes
How i said before. 95% of my friends are religious. and 90% of them tried to convert me to their own religion, i don't know why but most of the religious people try to convert you, they ask for respect and everything, but they don't even respect you, your freedom. Well, anyways, i never disrespected a religious person before, and with the 5% who don't try to convert me, we don't even talk about religion. And if you felt offended by anything that i said (talking in general to everyone) I'm sorry, this was not my intention, i just wanted to cause a nice and healthy discussion. Yes i talked about religion cause war and stuff, but well, you understood what i meant :]. Also, if you are one of the religious person who don't try to convert the others, Congratulations, you have my eternal respect.
Last edited by Erod_old; May 21, 2013 at 01:19 AM.
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Originally Posted by Erod
I totally agree with you. But please, admit. There was a lot of wars because of religion, and one of the most terrible one was because of religion. The Holocaust. Yes 60% of the wars is because of money, corruption, and politics. But the others 35% are because of religion. The 5% left is just because if random shits that the countries create to have problems and probably, get some money from them.
No doubt, the holocaust was a terrible event that hopefully will never be repeated. But it did start because of a corrupt leader. But overall it was a war on religion. If you look at most of the wars going on today, you can see that it is not entirely religions fault, even though currently there are some wars going on due to religious beliefs. The one thing I hate, is when people make false accusations because of a persons religion/background(stereotyping).
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Originally Posted by Oracle
Religion may not be the basis, but it's often wielded as a way to sell a war to the majority. The U.S. justified their war against Iraq in several ways by painting themselves as morally superior to Islamic Jihadists, and thus justified in their attempts to squash them out and bring "democracy" to the region. Our supposed moral superiority comes from the fact that we are Christian and they are Islamic extremists.
The War of 1812 was directly related to religion, as part of America's founding principles was the free practice of religion. And since the War of 1812 was a war to protect America's independence, it is justified through religious arguments.
And it's "sole" not "soul." Everyone seems to be messing this up and it's really bothersome. Sole is an expression of singularity or the bottom of one's feet. Soul is a corporeal entity that is said to encompass one's being.
And no, 9/11 was NOT an inside job, but there was a startlingly large amount of evidence that it was going to occur upwards of a couple years before it happened. The Clinton administration warned the Bush administration of possible terrorist attacks before Bush took office, and several reports and meeting were sent or scheduled with Bush to brief him on a supposed attack that would take place on American soil, and Bush either cancelled the meetings, or ignored the reports. There was literally a meeting the day before 9/11 that would have basically described the 9/11 plot to perfection, yet Bush cancelled it at the last moment. So no, rather than an inside job, it was just retardation on the part of an administration that was plagued with incompetence.
The "soul" thing was just an error on my part. But the war with Iraq was not necessarily because of religion. The United States needed a reason to go to war, so they used 9/11. And as the war for independence in the US was not all for religion. At first the Europeans came to the newly found United States for religious freedom, but once the British took control it all went down hill. The citizens felt that the British were being unfair, and they needed a change. So you can trace it back to religion if you would like, but it was mainly a war for freedom, not just freedom from religion.
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