Well, I think it's time to get some updated opinions on this case since Wilson has been completely vindicated.
What should we do about this nonsensical "omg what a racist" backlash that certain people exhibited? How do we deal with this persistent attitude of "black people can do no wrong, white people are all bloodthirsty racists"?
What should we do about this nonsensical "omg what a racist" backlash that certain people exhibited? How do we deal with this persistent attitude of "black people can do no wrong, white people are all bloodthirsty racists"?
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Originally Posted by ImmortalPig
Well, I think it's time to get some updated opinions on this case since Wilson has been completely vindicated.
What should we do about this nonsensical "omg what a racist" backlash that certain people exhibited? How do we deal with this persistent attitude of "black people can do no wrong, white people are all bloodthirsty racists"?
I'm sorry, but when your group goes through a couple centuries of slavery, segregation, and discrimination you tend to not forget about it very quickly. And your blatant overuse of hyperbole is not beneficial to the overall discussion.
When you still have members of a generation who experienced overt institutional racism at the hands of a white criminal justice system, and you then have an incident of a white police officer shooting a black man, and not even start an investigation into the shooting until public outcry over the death sparks national attention, and you then proceed to character assassinate the dead man for something you yourself admit is unrelated to the shooting, you tend to stir up memories of past transgressions of a racist governing body. Regardless of the innocence of the officer, the event highlighted the failure, and I would argue incompetence, of the police force in Ferguson. They were negligent in standard police procedure, which is to start an immediate investigation into any officer-related shooting and put the officer related to the case on administrative leave, and then were obstructive during the investigation, and used thinly veiled attempts at justifying their officer's actions by smearing Brown's character with an event that was, in their own words, unknown to the officer at the time of the shooting.
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I'm hearing a lot of problems and no solutions, Oracle ;)
I think we all know what he means. The black community (and white, wormy media) do tend to cry 'racist' at the drop of a hat. I think a bit of responsibilty on the part of black leaders who champion this sort of knee-jerk thinking would be in order. The cultural leaders are the ones that set the example, so if they current ones are just continuing the trend, it'd be about time for a new leader to emerge.
I think we all know what he means. The black community (and white, wormy media) do tend to cry 'racist' at the drop of a hat. I think a bit of responsibilty on the part of black leaders who champion this sort of knee-jerk thinking would be in order. The cultural leaders are the ones that set the example, so if they current ones are just continuing the trend, it'd be about time for a new leader to emerge.
I'm not stating a solution because I believe the reaction, sans riots, was justified, hence no problem. The protests started, not because of assumption of racism, but because of the police's actions being inappropriate to the event, which eventually lead to charges of racism.
As I mentioned previously, standard procedure is to put the officer involved in the shooting on administrative leave while an investigation takes place. Not starting an investigation, and keeping the involved officer on patrol, are not following standard procedure. Ferguson police did not follow procedure, and when they finally did start following procedure when the nation was watching them, they were not transparent with their investigation, a key to keeping an already unsettled public manageable. Furthermore, their releases during the investigation, at least in the beginning, admitted no wrong doing on the force's response and served mainly to defend their actions by, like I mentioned before, character assassinating Brown. And when all this occurs between a white cop in a white establishment and a black man in a black community, racism is the easiest, and most historically correct, assumption to make.
If there was any problem that needed a solution, it was the incompetence of the police department for their handling of the case. I don't know how they're setup, but they behaved entirely inappropriately to the case and the backlash to their handling. And since I'm unsure of the extent of their problems, my only upfront solution would be an investigation into the establishment to better guide its reformation.
As I mentioned previously, standard procedure is to put the officer involved in the shooting on administrative leave while an investigation takes place. Not starting an investigation, and keeping the involved officer on patrol, are not following standard procedure. Ferguson police did not follow procedure, and when they finally did start following procedure when the nation was watching them, they were not transparent with their investigation, a key to keeping an already unsettled public manageable. Furthermore, their releases during the investigation, at least in the beginning, admitted no wrong doing on the force's response and served mainly to defend their actions by, like I mentioned before, character assassinating Brown. And when all this occurs between a white cop in a white establishment and a black man in a black community, racism is the easiest, and most historically correct, assumption to make.
If there was any problem that needed a solution, it was the incompetence of the police department for their handling of the case. I don't know how they're setup, but they behaved entirely inappropriately to the case and the backlash to their handling. And since I'm unsure of the extent of their problems, my only upfront solution would be an investigation into the establishment to better guide its reformation.
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Originally Posted by ImmortalPig
Well, I think it's time to get some updated opinions on this case since Wilson has been completely vindicated.
According to...what, exactly? How have you teased such an uncompromising truth out that both the judicial process and the FBI have yet to find?
Originally Posted by ImmortalPig
How do we deal with this persistent attitude of "black people can do no wrong, white people are all bloodthirsty racists"?
Yes, because that is the problematic issue in America best highlighted by this case, the apparently persistent attitude that black people do no wrong, which is of course quite possibly the least prevalent attitude in America.
I think it's especially pathetic and two-faced to use this as an opportunity to complain about how unfairly respected black people are and how unfairly demonized white people are by the media. How surprising, the media are sensationalist and hungry for stories, and engage in histrionics to increase viewer interest! And yet this only becomes the focus of discussion when the media grant too much attention to one pesky murdered black guy and play up the issue of race.
Originally Posted by protonitron
For general beliefs about white people being racist maybe if the media stopped exaggerating how racist white people (especially in the police force and in government based jobs) are
This would be good idea except there really is a entrenched subculture of racism in police work and government work that nobody really cares about until these stories pop up.
This is not something disputed. Eric Gardner, Tenaha Texas, stop and frisk. Widespread anecdotal evidence from police officers themselves. Statistics, both on arrests and incarcerations. If you are black your treatment by authority figures will almost inevitably deviate from what it should be at some point.
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