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Should Abortion be illegal?
Abortion is one of those topics that has always raised flags for many people. Some believe abortion to be murder, claiming that because the being inside the mother is alive, it is murder. Others hold the belief that it's the mother's choice, and the mother's choice only.
The murder scenario entirely depends on whether you consider the foetus to be a person, and as well all know, murder involves the intentional death of another person. The question we should be asking ourselves is what defines human nature? Is it our ability to question the world? To have a clear understanding of reality? Can a 32-week-old foetus feel and dream the same as a newborn baby?
There is also the argument of making exceptions for rape victims and under-age girls, but surely that would cause a tremendous amount of confusion in the system? Anyone could just say they were raped and get away with it, so how could we enforce a clear understanding of the law regarding specific situational offences?
What is your view on abortion?
http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandst...-pain-24-weeks
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1440624/
http://www.mccl.org/unborn-babies-can-feel-pain.html
http://www.slate.com/articles/health..._20_weeks.html
Last edited by MintCat; Jul 13, 2015 at 08:48 PM.
From my stand point, if it is certain that the baby is going to have a miserable life, be it either from poverty, bad habits or a bad parent, I would still want it to be a choice. I see that it can be classified as murder, but when you say it like that, it really pushes people away from abortion, even if in their given position abortion would be a better choice. I find it better to put a fetus to rest and not have it live through what it might, but this really just goes back to the euthanasia discussion, and I really dont want to invoke more bittering from there.
So from my view, abortion should remain legal, or maybe a choice given to families with situations that will make the baby´s life a living hell.
or you could be as straight forward as the gentlemen above me.
So from my view, abortion should remain legal, or maybe a choice given to families with situations that will make the baby´s life a living hell.
or you could be as straight forward as the gentlemen above me.
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um..no. You see, a child inside a mother's stomach is technically living. It may be dependant on the mother but it is still technically living. And, since abortion would kill a living thing, it is , in many ways, murder. As murder is a crime, abortion should be illegal as abortion is a "form" of murder. (NO)
Originally Posted by ZephAxix
um..no. You see, a child inside a mother's stomach is technically living. It may be dependant on the mother but it is still technically living. And, since abortion would kill a living thing, it is , in many ways, murder. As murder is a crime, abortion should be illegal as abortion is a "form" of murder. (NO)
Trees live. Choppin a tree down kills the tree. = Chopping down trees is murder
Last edited by Ele; Jul 14, 2015 at 02:34 AM.
Define living. I would argue that because the fetus is physically incapable of surviving outside the womb without medical assistance that it's very much not alive.
This is the problem with most of the abortion debate. Both sides are arguing under different preestablished conclusions, which is the status of the fetus. Pro-choice typically argues under the fetus not being alive, pro-abortion argues under the fetus being alive. You will typically not have any productive discussion between both sides until this is otherwise.
Also, pre-emptive strike against the likely "ur putting the baby thru a painful death being torn apart monster" argument. The fetus will not develop a nervous system capable of feeling pain until several months in to a pregnancy. The majority of abortions take place within the first month. The fetus isn't even distinguishable as human at this point, let alone capable of feeling anything, and certainly incapable of living without extreme medical intervention.
This is the problem with most of the abortion debate. Both sides are arguing under different preestablished conclusions, which is the status of the fetus. Pro-choice typically argues under the fetus not being alive, pro-abortion argues under the fetus being alive. You will typically not have any productive discussion between both sides until this is otherwise.
Also, pre-emptive strike against the likely "ur putting the baby thru a painful death being torn apart monster" argument. The fetus will not develop a nervous system capable of feeling pain until several months in to a pregnancy. The majority of abortions take place within the first month. The fetus isn't even distinguishable as human at this point, let alone capable of feeling anything, and certainly incapable of living without extreme medical intervention.
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