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Originally Posted by ImmortalPig View Post
If you have cis-hetero-penis-in-vagina sex then the woman might get pregnant.

Hyde is saying that by having sex knowing full well that pregnancy is possible, then you should accept the consequences.

But why, when the consequences are not inevitable? If you've stood in the sun until you get skin cancer, do we prevent treatment because you should just accept the consequences? If you drive without a seat belt and sustain injury in a car accident, should we refrain from saving your life since you could have predictably avoided harm?

There's an underlying assumption to your reasoning that the fetus is fully human and should be given the full consideration of any other human, but why that would be so has not been cogently argued.
Originally Posted by cigarillo View Post
you realize people have sex for pleasure right? if you have sex for pleasure you ARE NOT looking to have a child.

it seems like this contract is based off sex meant to create a child.

And you have sex understanding that there is a possibility of accidentally conceiving life. The reproductive system, at it's core, is not there for you to bust a nut for 10 seconds of pleasure (male perspective, mind you). It is there to, idk, reproduce? The contract is to prevent women from going homeless or in poverty, because a man came in her and then decided its not his fault.
Originally Posted by Clbck View Post
But why, when the consequences are not inevitable? If you've stood in the sun until you get skin cancer, do we prevent treatment because you should just accept the consequences? If you drive without a seat belt and sustain injury in a car accident, should we refrain from saving your life since you could have predictably avoided harm?

There's an underlying assumption to your reasoning that the fetus is fully human and should be given the full consideration of any other human, but why that would be so has not been cogently argued.

Both of these things imply that the person doing it is a fucking idiot.Its YOUR fault you stood in the sun, its YOUR fault you didn't have a seatbelt on, and likewise its YOUR fault for not taking the precautions in getting someone/yourself pregnant. And, like there are solution to your other fuck ups, there are abortions. And I would like for us to consider how much better this is compared to how we use to handle unwanted births, or even how nature deals with its weaker link children.

And that is just fucking leaving them.

So really, doing this to something that is not quiet define as living, (there are a lot of debates on when a fetus should be given the right to live, see here ) is probably the best way to go.


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Last edited by RAWWRH; Jul 21, 2015 at 09:08 PM.
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