Originally Posted by William
No, he's not right. 90% of duelers fight in aikidobd.
The competitive scene shouldn't depend on the presence of stakes. Never!
No.
First off, 90% of duelers do not exclusively duel in ABD. They also duel in lenshu3ng and boxshumushuv3. If you want to say "90% of duels happen in ABD", that's closer to the truth, but only because you have people dueling 250 TC brown belt vs 3rd Dan because that's the extent of their dueling knowledge.
Shmevin, iTemp, Killer3366, Shockey, iRookie, and other prominent duelers DEFINITELY duel in more than ABD.
Secondly-
If you want a match to matter, it will only do so if it has consequences. Winning the match means you're one step closer to winning clan league for example. Losing the match means your clan is knocked out of Clan League for example. Losing the match means half my TC is gone for example. Real E-Sports, top matches matter a lot. Millions of dollars are won, which by proxy means other players lost the chance to win millions of dollars.
Thirdly-
You need matchmaking for an effective ranking system to work. That's not debatable. Literally choosing who you play, and in what you play, will explicitly favor noob farmers. You just shovel aikido and greykido players who aren't great, and dodge the matches you think it won't work. Rush kick and run away from lenshu3ng players who aren't great, and dodge any match you think you might lose. Snapkick any TK noob you think won't stop it, and dodge any match that you think you'd lose. It's EXTREMELY easy to maintain a 90% win ratio if you exclusively play players who you're confident you'll beat with great consistency.
You can argue that's not true- but we're seeing it as we speak William. Less you're willing to say Coyote0500 is the best player in Toribash, and certainly so for being #1 in the world in aikido, and #3 in the world in greykido.
Just to be clear: I think the ranking system can improve further without the use of the matchmaking system, but it sucks in comparison to having a matchmaking system.
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Originally Posted by DrHax
No.
First off, 90% of duelers do not exclusively duel in ABD. They also duel in lenshu3ng and boxshumushuv3. If you want to say "90% of duels happen in ABD", that's closer to the truth, but only because you have people dueling 250 TC brown belt vs 3rd Dan because that's the extent of their dueling knowledge.
Shmevin, iTemp, Killer3366, Shockey, iRookie, and other prominent duelers DEFINITELY duel in more than ABD.
Secondly-
If you want a match to matter, it will only do so if it has consequences. Winning the match means you're one step closer to winning clan league for example. Losing the match means your clan is knocked out of Clan League for example. Losing the match means half my TC is gone for example. Real E-Sports, top matches matter a lot. Millions of dollars are won, which by proxy means other players lost the chance to win millions of dollars.
Thirdly-
You need matchmaking for an effective ranking system to work. That's not debatable. Literally choosing who you play, and in what you play, will explicitly favor noob farmers. You just shovel aikido and greykido players who aren't great, and dodge the matches you think it won't work. Rush kick and run away from lenshu3ng players who aren't great, and dodge any match you think you might lose. Snapkick any TK noob you think won't stop it, and dodge any match that you think you'd lose. It's EXTREMELY easy to maintain a 90% win ratio if you exclusively play players who you're confident you'll beat with great consistency.
You can argue that's not true- but we're seeing it as we speak William. Less you're willing to say Coyote0500 is the best player in Toribash, and certainly so for being #1 in the world in aikido, and #3 in the world in greykido.
Just to be clear: I think the ranking system can improve further without the use of the matchmaking system, but it sucks in comparison to having a matchmaking system.
First point, yes I agree. Listen, I'm talking from personal experience here. We both don't have the statistics to support any of our claims. But from personal experience, yes most of seem to be interested in dueling in ABD. What is box mushu..it's a random mod. Not an indicator of skill at ALL.
Second point, I really can't agree with that! You don't need a reason to win, you just WIN. The best players in wushu..Snudge, Ticux, begotten etc... were just incredible at winning without needing this TC incentive. In this rank system, the incentive is getting a high rank.
Third point, I did mention a matchmaking system is much better. You're talking here about cherry picking which a common problem in a lot of online games. These ranking restricted servers would fix it to a certain degree. Let's face it someone who is good at his mod will be able to get into these high ranked servers come day 20. So, then here we have a lot more contact between good and bad players which will tend to filter them out.
No, he's not the best player in TB in the world. That's not what this ranking system tells you. It tells you that he's been the best for these 15 days only!
I'll admit I've never seen him play, so I cannot judge whether he is one of the best aikido players or not. Let's face it, it's up to the best aikido players to beat him up. He's played a fairly high amount of games, you'd think the good aikido players would have beat him up already. Apparently not, with that win-ratio.
I repeat, matchmaking system is much better, I'm trying to create the best system with what's available. ^^
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