HTOTM: FUSION
Originally Posted by Cassh View Post
i cant believe some of you said its not okay to hit anyone. you guys understand the concept of a deterrent? the black panthers did.

Actions in real life have consequences. Are you just being edgy or are you really that retarded that you don't understand why it's unacceptable to hit people for no valid reason? And no, their views not aligning with yours is not a valid reason. Assault is a crime and it'll get you a criminal record and even jail time in some cases. That can have major consequences on your ability to find a job in the future, since most places don't hire people with criminal records, thus ruining your life. But it seems the concept of being an adult is something foreign to you since you are an angsty teen living with his parents and you aren't pulling your own weight in society. Also, don't act all high and mighty like you are some sort of street fighting god. I'm sure you are a stranger to physical confrontation and 95% of the people in this thread will drop your skinny white american ass in an instant, otherwise you wouldn't be spouting such nonsense.

Back to "nazis". Ignore it and it will go away. Don't participate in rallies held by either side, antifa or the alt-right. Go to work, be productive, and let the proper authorities handle the problems that arise from the conflict between these two ideologies.
Originally Posted by hipotibor View Post
Back to "nazis". Ignore it and it will go away. Don't participate in rallies held by either side, antifa or the alt-right. Go to work, be productive, and let the proper authorities handle the problems that arise from the conflict between these two ideologies.


well, are you really sure that it will "go away"?

those 2 sides have been around since the 2. WW more or less but its always been there and it will always be there.
there are for sure other groups which fight over "similiar" stuff but those are less vocal have less members and thus are less noticed, but there will always be fights around left-right sides. it certainly wont just disappear from one day to another and the authorities youre talking about can only do so much, not all of them are stupid, means some of them actually handle within the law to not get in trouble, but still voice their opinion. resulting, as long there are enough dumb people who believe that they actually have to fight for their opinion/side it wont end.
i mean, after all those people go to schools and recruit people there with, music, clothing and their family-esque style etc. etc. etc.

violence wont solve it, but neither will ignoring do.

Originally Posted by MrJingles View Post
@blub: considering you're actually from Germany, I find it peculiar how easily you throw around the word nazi. The more people throw around the word nazi, the less value it holds. Calling someone a nazi just because they may or may not share a single aspect (prejudice towards other races) with the party does not necessarily mean they support Hitler and a passion for German nationalism, both key aspects of Nazism.

fair point, althought the word nowadays is more used as a generalisation, there are right side supporters who arent "nazis" (infact, closer relatives of mine are like that, i wouldnt call them a nazi because they arent, but they sympathizise with them sorta) but those are, somewhat outnumbered.
tho you could substitute the word nazi in my post with fascist, which would probably be more fitting.

also, to the rest of your post, i understand why people have.. i would like to call it fear towards those people, its escpecially crucial due to the refugee crisis we have around here, people tend more and more towards right sided parties because they want to activley work AGAINST them and because people have an actual fear of those people they will start supporting them, disregarding the other stuff those parties will also do. (somewhat fits to what i wrote above aswell.)

i wanted to say more but i kinda got distracted.. ill let it sit as this for now.~
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Originally Posted by BlubKill View Post


fair point, althought the word nowadays is more used as a generalisation, there are right side supporters who arent "nazis" (infact, closer relatives of mine are like that, i wouldnt call them a nazi because they arent, but they sympathizise with them sorta) but those are, somewhat outnumbered.
tho you could substitute the word nazi in my post with fascist, which would probably be more fitting.

also, to the rest of your post, i understand why people have.. i would like to call it fear towards those people, its escpecially crucial due to the refugee crisis we have around here, people tend more and more towards right sided parties because they want to activley work AGAINST them and because people have an actual fear of those people they will start supporting them, disregarding the other stuff those parties will also do. (somewhat fits to what i wrote above aswell.)

i wanted to say more but i kinda got distracted.. ill let it sit as this for now.~

The problem with changing the definition of such words that invoke such a strong negative emotion is that their definition can be molded and shaped to fit a person's agenda while retaining the same negative meaning, eventually losing power the more its echoed as I mentioned in my previous post. We should not forget what an actual nazi is, and realize a 'modern nazi' is nowhere near the original. Its akin to how feminists have tried to change the definition of 'rape' to fit their discussions. As one can see after their changing of the definition, they now believe in things like "stare-rape", and rape without anyone actually touching them, and worst of all they turned actual rape into a mockery as the word no longer holds the intense meaning it once had. While altering definitions may seem to be harmless, it can be extremely dangerous with original definitions being lost.

A lot of people in the world right now, on both sides of the spectrum, are in a rut whether financially, emotionally, whatever. Many are dissatisfied with their government and feel they need to 'step up' since they feel no one else can. While its a commendable thought process, its very much like the whole "depressed Germany putting their beliefs in Hitler for a better tomorrow", in the fact that there are now two figures of power (left and right wing). The two extreme sides of the spectrum are expressing that should people follow their respective ideology, and not allow the other side to propagate, then the world will be a better place. Again abusing the fact that when people are backed into a corner, they will latch onto something that they feel can better their own lives. Again, the Milgram experiments clearly display this trait in humanity.

Far left wingers are led to believe that the right are nazi scumbags who are white nationalist slave owners who don't care for people of colour, while the far right are led to believe that the left are no job bat-wielding hippies. While some people on both sides may fit the description its important to understand that the news sensationalizes everything to get you riled up. The world needs to understand that both sides are trying to change the world for the better (with their own ideologies), that we can agree on, but its the misinformation being spread and the charismatic people playing the 'pied piper' who are at the core of the problem.
Last edited by MrJingles; Sep 9, 2017 at 03:50 PM.
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