Originally Posted by Smaguris
However, there are many recorded cases of people committing murders while high on LSD that they have no recollection of after the trip, which is objectively worse.
There are more recorded cases of people committing murders while drunk, yet we don’t ban alcohol.
There are also anecdotes of people committing murders blacked out on xanax, yet doctors still prescribe it.
There are more cases of vehicular homicide by a wide margin, yet driving is still legal.
Those who do have psychotic episodes as a result of psychedelics plausibly have had an underlying schizophrenic condition (source).
Originally Posted by Smaguris
Legalisation of anything increases dealing of it in every level. Just like weed, just because it's legalised it didn't get off the streets, if anything more and more people are being involved with dealing it. Also what is your idea of "moderation"? You can't really moderate something, as soon as it becomes legal in any level people will find ways to get their hands on the supply and deal it illegally.
The whole point of legalising weed was never to reduce consumption or get it off the “streets”, which is why you have independent small business owners working in the weed industry popping up in legal states generating income not only for themselves but tax revenue for the state. Also, you can argue that lsd is easier to get with weed considering you can buy a whole sheet of it online and have it shipped to your house. Anyone who wants lsd doesn’t even need an in-person dealer to get it. Legalisation will lead to better access to education regarding psychedelics and decriminalisation of these substances that are not only nearly impossible to overdose on, but also are not physically addictive.
Last edited by Daxx; May 5, 2018 at 11:33 AM.
Originally Posted by Daxx
There are more recorded cases of people committing murders while drunk, yet we don’t ban alcohol.
There are also anecdotes of people committing murders blacked out on xanax, yet doctors still prescribe it.
There are more cases of vehicular homicide by a wide margin, yet driving is still legal.
Those who do have psychotic episodes as a result of psychedelics plausibly have had an underlying schizophrenic condition (source).
I would like to see your sources for the first and third claims - although I don't doubt that they are true, whats important isn't the number of homocides, rather the number of homocides per 100,000 drivers or people who use the drug.
Whether the drug "causes" or "triggers" schizophrenia isn't really that relevant, if it has the effect of triggering schizophrenia then it's dangerous in the same way.
Don't dm me pictures of bowls that you find attractive.
Originally Posted by SmallBowl
I would like to see your sources for the first and third claims - although I don't doubt that they are true, whats important isn't the number of homocides, rather the number of homocides per 100,000 drivers or people who use the drug.
Whether the drug "causes" or "triggers" schizophrenia isn't really that relevant, if it has the effect of triggering schizophrenia then it's dangerous in the same way.
There are no peer reviewed studies to gather that data as the drug is illegal, making it very difficult to conduct those. Makes me wonder if only there were a way to fix that issue. There is no problem with handling the use of psychedelics in a similar way to alcohol being that there are DWI laws, age restrictions, and no criminal penalties for people that consume it and follow the law otherwise. I find it ironic that those who claim to be all for citizens' well-being usually also are fine with branding people who consume a substance, and otherwise mind their own business, as felons. As if throwing people in jail, spending tax money to take care of them while incarcerated, and diminishing their quality of life after prison due to being labeled a felon, is what is beneficial for society.
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