Originally Posted by Arctic
this also sort of applies to the post above
this isn't even true at all anymore, just read the art board rulesthis was changed when i still was smod, in mid/late 2017, iirc. all you have to do is post something like "nice, the shading is good" or "not nice, the eyes look awful", or anything like that. if people actually want constructive criticism only, they need to add the prefix to their threads.
If this is true, then the rules already affected many people to the point they don't bother to check in the art board, I know I rarely ever visit the art board anymore, only hop on on requests and jump off, I used to even enjoy posting in the art board but just seeing as how "everything" you post will just get infracted, couldn't really express any sort of opinion without having to write a paragraph. Even if something needs the smallest of cnc. It really ruined the art board imo.
rules are good but too many just pushes everyone away, wibbles 2.0 was pretty good for the most part when it was free, I personally didn't see anything bad other than the occasional goatse, that was easily fixed with a ban or just a thread deletion though, wibbles is meant to be cancer for the most part, and it was fun cause it lacked rules, it was one of the only places where you can say anything without having some staff breathing down your neck and threatening you with infractions. If I remember, wibbles was extremely active, until a paywall was added, many didn't like it but those that made the decision didn't really show remorse. I still don't even use wibbles cause I'm against that decision.
Also this gets brought up a lot, but many players have issues with staff, shouldn't that mean anything?
Should it be adressed?
I try to give the benefit of the doubt but some staff tend to get some sort of complex,
Even with community changes/additions/decisions there doesn't seem to be much staff to general population communication, I know there's the suggestions and ideas board, most of those are player ideas, would be really insightful to know what's being worked on and if it should be continued since what really makes the forums live is the players itself, when nothing is addressed or acknowledged that just seems to cause people to withdraw from posting.
Don't get me wrong, a lot of staff are pretty cool, until they are against you, then it's hard to actually be in the right, since they don't have to believe you, it's just seems they aren't people at some point. I understand you're all busy but you were once general pop once.
haha didn't think I would write this much, excuse if my structures is fucked.
Last edited by Lucy; Jun 1, 2018 at 08:31 AM.
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Originally Posted by Lucy
I try to give the benefit of the doubt but some staff tend to get some sort of complex
This is is very true. Plenty of staff begin to develop a complex thinking they are better than everyone else and everyone around them feels it, turning people away. I can easily list a few right here but I don't want to get banned lol.
Staff have also been very biased against me personally many times, this is the most recent thing, i'll give a quick run down
I dueled Apricity 300k vs 20$ to 3 wins (his USD), he scams me, I report him, the report gets closed within hours and nobody gets banned because USD scams aren't supported (even though Apricity is / was bos, zt)
(for backround info natejas scammed me out of a clockwork8 head first)
So I dueled my TC vs Natejas USD, he won and I scammed him since USD duels aren't supported, but guess what? I get perma banned on my main. I get it, I shouldn't have scammed, but how are you going to tell me a duel isn't valid and close my report but turn around and ban me for the same exact thing?
Originally Posted by McFarbo
This is is very true. Plenty of staff begin to develop a complex thinking they are better than everyone else and everyone around them feels it, turning people away. I can easily list a few right here but I don't want to get banned lol.
Staff have also been very biased against me personally many times, this is the most recent thing, i'll give a quick run down
I dueled Apricity 300k vs 20$ to 3 wins (his USD), he scams me, I report him, the report gets closed within hours and nobody gets banned because USD scams aren't supported (even though Apricity is / was bos, zt)
(for backround info natejas scammed me out of a clockwork8 head first)
So I dueled my TC vs Natejas USD, he won and I scammed him since USD duels aren't supported, but guess what? I get perma banned on my main. I get it, I shouldn't have scammed, but how are you going to tell me a duel isn't valid and close my report but turn around and ban me for the same exact thing?
Yeah man, as a lurker in the staff complaint thread, I've seen countless times where staff are in the wrong or they try to be right in a shady situation where there's no real right.
Of course staff are just busy people and they make mistakes too, and I respect those that admit to it.
and obviously a lot of players complain and they are wrong, whatever but there's been many times where it seems staff are right cause they have the say, lately though seeing a staff trial being denied due to flaming is actually somewhat good to see, since also seeing that staff will almost take another staff's side (cough Kyure cough).
They even made a long post trying to defend kyure, when most new staff don't even get this much of leeway.
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Just checking out page 6 and up, you'll see how much he was defended.
Hopefully that never happens again, was fun to see it unravel tho.
Last edited by Lucy; Jun 2, 2018 at 08:28 AM.
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I cannot, for whoever's sake, believe that kyure is still talked about.
To do you a favor, I checked all the reports that have been made against him. Our of all of them, the one that actually held any sort of weight (read: reasonable to fire for) was the whole avatar duel scam deal.
There were literally more reports saying "cmon kyure has too many complaints fire him" than reports that were anyhow significant.
Mcfarbo: If you have any sort of evidence that supports your "hrm staff are power fuelled fuckwads" viewpoint you can present it to literally any of the higher ups, me included. Or, if it's about us, you go higher (suo/skul/sir). And higher if you feel like those 3 are the worst, straight to hampa. Peddling this stance of "I can show you that staff are bad but I'd get banned" is a) unfounded and b) literally useless aside from broadening this gap between the playerbase and staff members that you lot like to talk about.
On the point of TB dying. As said before, TB is a niche indie game that just isn't going to be as big as minecraft or whatever. Forums barely get visited because forums generally are a time forsaken utility, but you get to enjoy the niche community they retain. The game is being updated and toyed around with to appeal to a new playerbase. TBN is getting made with more of a "let's push it to the people" standpoint. There are efforts to get this game not to die in the next few weeks.
To do you a favor, I checked all the reports that have been made against him. Our of all of them, the one that actually held any sort of weight (read: reasonable to fire for) was the whole avatar duel scam deal.
There were literally more reports saying "cmon kyure has too many complaints fire him" than reports that were anyhow significant.
Mcfarbo: If you have any sort of evidence that supports your "hrm staff are power fuelled fuckwads" viewpoint you can present it to literally any of the higher ups, me included. Or, if it's about us, you go higher (suo/skul/sir). And higher if you feel like those 3 are the worst, straight to hampa. Peddling this stance of "I can show you that staff are bad but I'd get banned" is a) unfounded and b) literally useless aside from broadening this gap between the playerbase and staff members that you lot like to talk about.
On the point of TB dying. As said before, TB is a niche indie game that just isn't going to be as big as minecraft or whatever. Forums barely get visited because forums generally are a time forsaken utility, but you get to enjoy the niche community they retain. The game is being updated and toyed around with to appeal to a new playerbase. TBN is getting made with more of a "let's push it to the people" standpoint. There are efforts to get this game not to die in the next few weeks.
Last edited by duck; Jun 2, 2018 at 02:44 PM.
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Originally Posted by duck
Mcfarbo: If you have any sort of evidence that supports your "hrm staff are power fuelled fuckwads" viewpoint you can present it to literally any of the higher ups, me included. Or, if it's about us, you go higher (suo/skul/sir). And higher if you feel like those 3 are the worst, straight to hampa. Peddling this stance of "I can show you that staff are bad but I'd get banned" is a) unfounded and b) literally useless aside from broadening this gap between the playerbase and staff members that you lot like to talk about.
I never stated I can show you how staff are bad, but that I could list some (in my opinion) biased staff members.
And if you can read the issue I had with my ban in that exact post to see what I believe to be total bias for natejas (staff)
Originally Posted by duck
So the question is, what is the divide? Why is there a divide? Why do you think staff are bad?
The divide, in my opinion, is due to egos of both parties involved. Someone like me would be intimidated by a staff member, and some staff think they are better than others.
And I personally don't think ALL staff are bad, but I think there can be over policing, and just simply don't handle instances right sometimes and refuse to admit they are wrong.
Last edited by McFarbo; Jun 3, 2018 at 04:08 PM.
