Originally Posted by Wounder

Except it hasn't done a whole lot in preventing scamming, and in fact the dueling rules actually help scammers.
People are now abusing the verified TC sellers function by impersonating them on discord and scamming the USD without even needing a toribash account, so there's no way to punish them.

Originally Posted by Wounder

Recently Diamond, who recently became a legend, and is one of the best influences of recent Toribash history, was banned for selling TC.

Originally Posted by Shmevin

Also, I sold Xanax 800,000 TC. He approached me to purchase TC, and I obliged. You might as well ban me too.

Originally Posted by Chirs

Do laws against murder prevent murder?

You're saying a rule that doesnt fully prevent what it's trying to prevent should be abolished. Well I'm not saying any rule is perfect but I am saying that without checks and balances, there would be alot more scamming.

Originally Posted by Chirs

also I don't have to prove anything to you and you still havent told me how my activity factors into the validity of my arguements.

Originally Posted by Wounder

Laws against murder also don't punish the law abiding citizens, and don't help the murderers.

I'm not saying the rules should be abolished, but as of right now they need to be changed.

Originally Posted by Wizard

You keep saying this, but I haven’t read a single explainaition on how exactly this rule helps scammers. Not asking in any sarcastic way, but in your opinion, how exactly do these rules help scammers?

I believe the rule is totally unfair, and totally IN favor of the scammers, while giving everyone else in the community a headache. Just recently Ceytune/Senu/Tyka has gone around and scammed 3 people in USD duels, and he's free as a bird.

someone named 'Asni' has gone around on discord impersonating users like me, diamond, and others, and has scammed upwards of 200$ USD AFTER this whole TC selling reform was implemented without even having an account to ban, so how useful is it really?

Originally Posted by Wounder

Notice how people who actually play the game are against these rules, now notice how you barely play the game and these rules do not affect you in any way.
It's exactly like the millionaire celebrities living in gated community's who are for illegal immigration.

Originally Posted by Wounder

This is why I believe these rules are helping scammers. There's absolutely no punishment for either of these things, and the only ones punished are the people who play the game fairly because they can't even sell TC, buy TC without waiting 3 days for someone to open the sellers thread, or duel for USD without having to worry about getting nothing.

Originally Posted by Chirs

If you really thought so, you wouldn't have posted this on the forums because surely you know the majority of people in this community do not play the game as much as you guys do.

Originally Posted by Chirs

I think you only want to hear people agree with you and because I am not agreeing with you my opinion is irrelevant.

Originally Posted by Chirs

Do you honestly believe the reason why that person hasnt been banned is because the system allows it? this has to be the dumbest arguement you've brought up yet.

Originally Posted by Chirs

The reason you're required to document your sales on the forums BEFORE you do them is because otherwise the staff would have a much harder time deciding who is telling the truth in case a scam does occur. In your example, this guy supposedly scammed people impersonating you or other trusted Sellers. The staff can easily check if he was indeed scammed by checking your threads and seeing that you haven't logged any transactions, while the scammed shows that somebody who looked like he was you scammed him. If you were not required to document your sales, how would the staff decide whose screenshot of a discord chat is altered or real or who's telling the truth? You can alter screenshots, you can fake chatlogs, but you cannot alter forum posts after they are made, the original is always retained.

Originally Posted by Chirs

But okay, you're that convinced that this system is flawed, what alternative do you offer? As it stands according to sir, the current system has reduced the amount of scams, but if you have some other magic system that works better why don't you enlighten us?