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yeah but what can anyone do about it. none of us can do anything about it. if everyone here goes vegetarian that it not gonna stop this from happening
A VERY WISE MAN SAID TO ME IF YOU TRY HARD IN LIFE YOU WILL ACHIEVE GREAT THINGS, I LAUGHED AT HIM AND LEFT
We aren't planning a way to stop an industry here. We are discussing if the way it functions is wrong, and what they could do to make the whole process more ethical.
have they heard of NOT GETTING ENUF EGGS
sure they are somehow getting something....but if they keep it up...they wont be able to
Yes, animal abuse is horrific. What's there to discuss? "Oh, right, maybe we SHOULD torture animals. I see your point clearly now".

It reminds me of that "should gays in iran be tortured" thread. Well, I want some discussion or this is closed/moved to RT.
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I don't know what to think.

I hate the people that talk out there ass and say this is terrible, and the people involved should be killed.STFU, period.

yes this is terrible but when it comes to a grinder, the death is fast and more frightning that painful, except for the 0.555555 seconds of the chicks life.

the thing is, life evolves. Humans in the begining crawled from the sea, and scrounged like rats. we got bigger, stronger and more intellegent. we needed other humans for survival. we got more and more sophisticated that we divided oursevles based on colour and relgion. we produced greed, hate, weapons ect. these all evolved. Chickens, didn't.

This is bad, but they would die normally in the wild. ripped apart by foxes, coyotes, birds of prey. dieing in the factory is well, not really that horrific, well, let me rephrase.

we have no regard because, other animals that are bigger, stronger, have no regard too. If your a vegan, a tiger or bear will still eat if it wants too. humans need food, and as horrible this is, it's life. Life changes, the World, changes. humans are primitive,just with better killing machines now, and thats the way life works.
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Originally Posted by ivolt View Post
I don't know what to think.

I hate the people that talk out there ass and say this is terrible, and the people involved should be killed.STFU, period.

yes this is terrible but when it comes to a grinder, the death is fast and more frightning that painful, except for the 0.555555 seconds of the chicks life.

the thing is, life evolves. Humans in the begining crawled from the sea, and scrounged like rats. we got bigger, stronger and more intellegent. we needed other humans for survival. we got more and more sophisticated that we divided oursevles based on colour and relgion. we produced greed, hate, weapons ect. these all evolved. Chickens, didn't.

This is bad, but they would die normally in the wild. ripped apart by foxes, coyotes, birds of prey. dieing in the factory is well, not really that horrific, well, let me rephrase.

we have no regard because, other animals that are bigger, stronger, have no regard too. If your a vegan, a tiger or bear will still eat if it wants too. humans need food, and as horrible this is, it's life. Life changes, the World, changes. humans are primitive,just with better killing machines now, and thats the way life works.

I do not find the way in which they are killed horrific. It's the thought behind it.

As a second point, are we not capable of showing kindness to other creatures? Yes we may be more primitive and adapted, but this gives us no reason to behave like this towards other creatures.
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Originally Posted by Loshi View Post
I do not find the way in which they are killed horrific. It's the thought behind it.

As a second point, are we not capable of showing kindness to other creatures? Yes we may be more primitive and adapted, but this gives us no reason to behave like this towards other creatures.

Way to contradict yourself.
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Originally Posted by Slycooper View Post
Yeah, I wouldn't go vegan. This is really terrible, shouldn't this go under investigation? Or ship the male chicks to a friendly place? Maybe a farm.

exactly what i was thinking ! should they really be killed for something they have no choise for ? It would be a better option to use them for something besides just being killed. I can see how they are roughly handled, but really ? Is it necessary to kill them ?
Terrible yes, i made a topic like this last year in debate.
This happens to many other animals as well, not just chickens. They are treated as objects, and their pain is completely, entirely, disregarded.

I just look forward to the future advances in nanotechnology which would allow us to grow ANY type of food (meat included) without subjecting any conscious creatures to torture.