Toribash
Basically a good 'ole problem of evil mixed with a bunch of extra speculative rhetoric.
What made it seem so ridiculous was the overly eccentric presentation. He should be in a theater.
Originally Posted by Megadoomer View Post
"god create everything, rape happen, god bad"

Common argument by people who haven't even read "holy" texts.
Originally Posted by m0o View Post
Common argument by people who haven't even read "holy" texts.

Are you saying the argument is somehow invalid?
Originally Posted by m0o View Post
Common argument by people who haven't even read "holy" texts.

Yeah, I really want to know the flaws in that argument.
Thanks.
The hole is that god gave humans free will. That's why .

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qui hic minxerit aut cacaverit, habeat deos superos et inferos iratos
Originally Posted by JtanK View Post
The hole is that god gave humans free will. That's why .

Bingo. Although there are plenty of philosophical holes that can be punched in the "free will" concept as well (such as the concept of God "having a plan for all of us", which, imo, is more of a modern interpretive position rather than one directly from the bible), which is obviously contradictory.
Free will doesn't exist, what we do is just mix of genes and our past. We don't choose if we go right or left, what we've done in past decides on that.
Originally Posted by Kordiss View Post
Free will doesn't exist, what we do is just mix of genes and our past. We don't choose if we go right or left, what we've done in past decides on that.

YES!! i allways talk this with my friends and they dont understand it.
cause and effect!

olso guys! if god created everything.... who created him? himself?...
let me tell you something. WE created god! not the other way round.
oh the viewers are all atheists now, i can stop talking?

i loved that one,
could have done without the weird voice and the outfit though.
dont like clowns much.
"I dissaprove of what you say, but i will defend to the death your right to say it"
but back to being ontopic, I'd like to hear more from this guy. He is strange and I don't quite follow him, but he is interesting.