Originally Posted by slipknot
Ohk you have to realise that not everything in the bible is to be taken seriously. But if they were being serious about the world being flat perhaps thats because they hadnt any evidence to proove otherwise? I mean if you were around back then what would you think if you saw the world as flat, your not going to think its actualy a sphere are you?
This means you're undermining your own words.
You said that bible is too smart to be written by man.
So it must be written by god.
And god made earth, didn't he?
But he put it on pillars and made it a flat circle with 4 corners.
So god doesn't have a fucking clue what he made?
Oh, and also, that humors me. Not everything in the bible is ment to be taken seriously.... oh dear.
I won't even get started on this statement, but who the hell are you to decide what's taken seriously and what's not? It's the word of god, it's absolute! And it tells you that, too! In many occurences.
That means every single phrase must hold true, right? God has all the knowledge and omnipotency, he must not be lying to you. Hmmm...
Oh, and god arrived when man made him.
You see, men are mentally weak species. Especially weak that they do not know what cause they should bring. Religion makes an (bad) attemp at describing this and it somehow soothes the curiosity in the more gullible and ignorant peers.
Oh, and since we're at it. I believe in the Gaia. That means simply, that our earth is a being that has some level of conciousness, whether it's semi-conciousness (shrooms) or full conciousness, i do not know. As well as other things that are crackpot things, but quite simply, i do not force my worldview on anyone else, or publicly talk about it. It's my personal view. Any religion is fine in that manner, even if you believed that ripping your genitals off pleases your god, i don't care. Do it. As long as you don't try to convert others to your ''so very good'' religion, like that fucking psycho ''jesus4me'' in the original poster's link.
Oh, and i'm still waiting data for that single good event that any religion has brought on this world. ANY. SINGLE. PREVENTED. CATASTROPHIC. EVENT.
Or any thing it has done that is good enough to not be overshadowed by either it's hidden agenda, or it's bad sides.
Oh... any data to prove that god did indeed create universe?
According to biblical studies, the earth must not be even tens of thousands of years old. (Well. I'm going to give you a stretch. If you read bible searching for acts about earth's age, you'll end up somewhere between 8000 and 6000 years. The universe's age is the same. But i'll give you 10 times that.)
Now. Explain what proof there is that the earth, as well as the entire universe was created in this time stretch. If you do believe in scientific approach, and disobey your holy book, going ahead to believe earth is few billions of years old, then explain what proof lies there that god created the universe. I dare you. Oh, right. One more thing.
You cannot use the phrase ''it's in the bible''. You already undermined that book's content by very clearly stating that not all parts should be taken seriously. So... don't take the creation part seriously. Now... EXPLAIN!
Last edited by Foxie; Mar 9, 2008 at 10:22 AM.
What what? In the butt.
Originally Posted by Foxie
This means you're undermining your own words.
You said that bible is too smart to be written by man.
So it must be written by god.
And god made earth, didn't he?
But he put it on pillars and made it a flat circle with 4 corners.
So god doesn't have a fucking clue what he made?
Oh, and also, that humors me. Not everything in the bible is ment to be taken seriously.... oh dear.
I won't even get started on this statement, but who the hell are you to decide what's taken seriously and what's not? It's the word of god, it's absolute! And it tells you that, too! In many occurences.
That means every single phrase must hold true, right? God has all the knowledge and omnipotency, he must not be lying to you. Hmmm...
Oh, and god arrived when man made him.
You see, men are mentally weak species. Especially weak that they do not know what cause they should bring. Religion makes an (bad) attemp at describing this and it somehow soothes the curiosity in the more gullible and ignorant peers.
Oh, and since we're at it. I believe in the Gaia. That means simply, that our earth is a being that has some level of conciousness, whether it's semi-conciousness (shrooms) or full conciousness, i do not know. As well as other things that are crackpot things, but quite simply, i do not force my worldview on anyone else, or publicly talk about it. It's my personal view. Any religion is fine in that manner, even if you believed that ripping your genitals off pleases your god, i don't care. Do it. As long as you don't try to convert others to your ''so very good'' religion, like that fucking psycho ''jesus4me'' in the original poster's link.
Oh, and i'm still waiting data for that single good event that any religion has brought on this world. ANY. SINGLE. PREVENTED. CATASTROPHIC. EVENT.
Or any thing it has done that is good enough to not be overshadowed by either it's hidden agenda, or it's bad sides
Ohk I could go into this and explain alotta shit but I cbf this is just stupid. I say we should agree to disagree and Im not trying to force my beliefs on anyone as I said earlier. Oh and one good thing religion has done: Jesus died on the cross so that we could be saved :P.
Oh and I was only saying that things in the bible about how God will shake pillars or whatever shouldnt be taken litteraly because stuff like that is obvious its just trying to say how awsome God is. And in the bible it doesnt say that he created the earth at that point when He put stuff on it. It says he was hovering over its waters, so the earth and the universe can be any number of years old really.
Last edited by slipknot; Mar 9, 2008 at 10:29 AM.
Originally Posted by stoog458
once again if wicca was the first known religion when did god arrive? it seems to me like the party was alreday started and he showed up and took the stage. also yor all ignorant because you chose to argue about religion in the first place....
Wicca the first known religion?
Wicca is a very recent religion, can be labeled as "neopaganism", or modern paganism.
And so is Christianity. We have older religions, Hindu religion is probably the oldest, Buddhism, then you have ancient paganism: ancient Greece & Celtic cults (which were obliterated due to Christianity conversion), Zoroastrianism, and even other primitive forms of non-organized religion movements that are WAY older than Christianity. Remember, Christianity is only 2000 years old, that's nothing for our existence...
Btw, if god is the creator, who created god?
Last edited by GenkiSudo; Mar 9, 2008 at 11:47 AM.
"There is enough on earth for everybody's need, but not for everyone's greed." - Mohandas Gandhi
Originally Posted by GenkiSudo
Wicca the first known religion?
Wicca is a very recent religion, can be called as "neopaganism", or modern paganism.
And so is Christianity. We have older religions, Hindu religion is probably the oldest, then you have ancient paganism, Buddhism, celtic cults (which were striped due to Christianity convention), Zoroastrianism, and even other forms of religion that are WAY older than Christianity. Remember, Christianity is only 2000 years old, that's nothing for our existence...
Not to mention most countries of the world have their own religions. Or had. Most of those were killed by the torture and killing that christians used to spread their ''message''. Mind you, crusades weren't only in the middle east. They covered the whole of known world.
Most known of those religions must be ''the ring of nibelungen''
What what? In the butt.
