Well really, this is just an indicator that Nabi knows what one is up to, and are willing to stop it.

Personally, I don't really see why you miss it either, as I was yet to see a server that were using it properly. There are tons of other weaponry modes that are a lot better. I suspect a lot of people in this thread miss this mode due to the fact that most servers using it allowed for fast paced matches. I mean really, fast paced.

leftknife.tbm was never any fun. Blindragon, why are you trying to create sides like this is some "evil fascist rulers vs rebels"-game? This is a community, and I think we all agree that it is better off without farming, exploiting, etc. So stop trying to cause a hassle and "revolt" against something, we are all on the same side here.

Quite. If users are exploiting an unbalanced area of an otherwise stable community and game, then their tools with which such users exploit the system are going to have to be removed. It's got nothing to do with user choice or the limiting of user choice or whatever other way you want to put it.

The problem doesn't lie with leftknife as a mod either. Again, it lies with the way the community uses such it. If members of the community commonly decide to exploit leftknife, then leftknife should be, through whatever means, rendered inexploitable.


Fair point, but apart from Nepo's settings and my own, none of the servers I have seen with leftknife set up have been created for matches that actually include any skill or gameplay value. Toribash has features such as belts, ranks and credits because they encourage personal user choice, and encourage users to buy into the game and support the developers. If people insist on playing extremely short matches merely to upgrade their belt/win credits/whatever, then surely there's something seriously wrong. Toribash is a game; play it for fun and competition, not simply to reach (utterly incorporeal) milestones.

If leftknife was being played the way it was for no reason other than the fact that users enjoyed it that way, then there wouldn't be a problem. Yet the way leftknife is often set up isn't purely for user enjoyment; in fact, it's doubtful that it is at all.

And as CMon said, there are plenty of mods similar to leftknife. I suggest you all have a deep root through your Mods folder. Who knows, maybe you could find something more interesting?

Hmm, I thought wtfmp was already an example of what will be done with abuse, although it was most extreme compared to this mod. I hope it is not needed to remove all mods that eventually become such mods for farming, for they will just keep on coming.

It is not like the farmers actually care of these mods and the removal of them damaging their activities or scaring them away if they are only using the mods to abuse them; only damaging the people who wish to actually play these mods for fun.

Well then that'll certainly be a motivator for those people to take action against farming. Most of the time leftknife was being abused, most members didn't give a fuck. A major problem about the community is how people couldn't give less of a rat's ass about illegal activites, partly because they lack the insight to see its potentially negative long-term effects, but mostly because a large number of our fellow members are lazy and egosentric.

Then you ban the settings not the mod its sensless
Why ban a mod when the mod isnt farming but the settings are
Dont allow 1turn games
much easier then wipeing out the mod

Um, no, far more difficult. But fair point otherwise - anyway, it isn't like we just hunt down every leftknife server because we can. We do because such servers are invariably set to single-turn/rapid matches.

But you shouldnt bust people who have leftknife on in the server, only if its at a 1turn setting

1 turn isn't necessarily a criteria for farming. Generally, 1-3 turns should be viewed as farming.

What did he just say?