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[TEX] Halo MarkVb Set by Susanin
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Before you start trading. Look a little story as BenDover Susanin accused of plagiarism.
Bendover gave Susanin ban for 5 days! Having explained all this for what Susanin refused to show the source of his inspiration. There is no evidence that this set plagiarism BenDovera course not, he just wanted to ban Susanin.
Friends, I think that the rule that says that everyone must show their source of work is at least as well. I ask the moderators to listen and fix it, which can be dispensed from the show source. And if there is evidence of plagiarism then this rule will make the source of that show who is under suspicion.
But only if they have proof! This is important, must be at least something. If someone knows what I'm talking about here. Put a + next to the rate









Artist:Susanin
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Start bid: 50k
min rise: 10k
Auto buy:150k
Size: 512x512
End Date: After 48 hours last bid
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There is proof that this set was C&P. If you need it there is a pm in my account from him of me asking if it was C&P and in the thread he says that he wont give the images that he used Just so you got the full deets on it. So if any mod/admin wants to look feel free to rummage the my pm's to see it (sad that he got banned for it though)

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Having explained all this for what Susanin refused to show the source of his inspiration. There is no evidence that this set plagiarism BenDovera course not, he just wanted to ban Susanin.

So this concludes, that Ben did not just want to ban Susanin. He just was doing his job (don't like to see friends accused of something)

So yeah, might wanna put that this set is C&P
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I do not deny that this is c & p set. But it is work Susanin. And here there is no plagiarism. He advocates the rule change, which requires a source to show, on the condition that no evidence is granted.
I repeat. Susanin works in this style, and it is not bad. You can search the forum and understand that from the very beginning, he did copy paste sets

Enough to discuss it. Just place your bets
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Firstly, stop talking about yourself in third person. Your just an alt of Susanin's.

Secondly, regarding this: "BenDovera course not, he just wanted to ban Susanin."
Moderators don't take grudges against users. We just do our job. If you think that mods are targeting you then all it's showing is that you're a self centered little child.

Thirdly, regarding this: "There is no evidence that this set plagiarism"
The reason that the rule is in place is so that we can ensure that you aren't actually plagiarizing other people's work. "Susanin refused to show the source of his inspiration." As you say here you only used the images as a source of inspiration. That's fine! If you're saying you're not plagiarizing and only used the images for inspiration then I don't see what the problem with posting your inspiration is.
This is what makes you suspicious. Your refusal to show your sources makes us suspicious of the fact that you have actually plagiarized. Do you understand? We're only suspicious because you won't show your inspiration.
The mods of Toribash reserve the right to ban you for any reason and you are guilty until proven innocent.
To prove you're innocent all you have to do is post your sources. It's not that hard.

Fourthly,
Originally Posted by The Rules
A) Using copyrighted work without proven owner consent (plagiarism) is strictly forbidden, and you must credit all other artists work. In other words, if you're selling c/p textures or images post a link to the original image.

This board has the same rules as the art board and you are breaking them.


In conclusion, I'll give you one last chance to show your sources. It shouldn't be that hard. If you just show your sources and you haven't plagiarized, like you say, then you'll be unbanned and free to sell this set like any other.
Easy.
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just saying.... "you are guilty until proven innocent." .....yeah cause thats just what someone wants in a game.... for the mods to think of everyone else as guilty.... ban first ask questions later?....

none the less. i am trying to raise enough TC to bid on this set so yeah.
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Originally Posted by Solax View Post
Firstly, stop talking about yourself in third person. Your just an alt of Susanin's.

Secondly, regarding this: "BenDovera course not, he just wanted to ban Susanin."
Moderators don't take grudges against users. We just do our job. If you think that mods are targeting you then all it's showing is that you're a self centered little child.

Thirdly, regarding this: "There is no evidence that this set plagiarism"
The reason that the rule is in place is so that we can ensure that you aren't actually plagiarizing other people's work. "Susanin refused to show the source of his inspiration." As you say here you only used the images as a source of inspiration. That's fine! If you're saying you're not plagiarizing and only used the images for inspiration then I don't see what the problem with posting your inspiration is.
This is what makes you suspicious. Your refusal to show your sources makes us suspicious of the fact that you have actually plagiarized. Do you understand? We're only suspicious because you won't show your inspiration.
The mods of Toribash reserve the right to ban you for any reason and you are guilty until proven innocent.
To prove you're innocent all you have to do is post your sources. It's not that hard.

Fourthly,

This board has the same rules as the art board and you are breaking them.


In conclusion, I'll give you one last chance to show your sources. It shouldn't be that hard. If you just show your sources and you haven't plagiarized, like you say, then you'll be unbanned and free to sell this set like any other.
Easy.

Well, suspect Susanin on, it's your right. I show the source of his work Hampa think that's enough. Because of the principle I do not want to show it's not for you not Bendover. Good luck in moderating!

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just saying.... "you are guilty until proven innocent." .....yeah cause thats just what someone wants in a game.... for the mods to think of everyone else as guilty.... ban first ask questions later?....

none the less. i am trying to raise enough TC to bid on this set so yeah.

sounds good=)
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