Toribash
Originally Posted by ImmortalCow View Post
Why would anyone possibly oppose that?

Because there's room for misuse and possible aggravation. A woman who wants to play a cruel prank can seduce a man, but use one of them (according to my sister's friends, they're called "rape condoms" but go figure) and cause serious pain and problems for the male, as they're only surgically removable without totally fucking up your dick.

In addition, during a gangrape, said device would get removed after the first case of penetration, as the device latches on to the person's genitalia. This leaves a group of angrier men than before, which could result in a more violent reaction. Rape isn't entirely about the sexual aspect of it, but about the power assertion. By thwarting the penetration, you just set yourself up for an angry beating from the perpetrator.

And the only way these devices are useful is if a woman can get them without question. See reason one for why that's an issue. It'd be pretty weird for a woman to go up to somebody and say "I think somebody is going to try to rape me in the next 24 hours, so can I please have the equivalent of a bear trap to stick into my vagina?" Exaggeration aside, there's too much hassle and problems that arise from them.

A better solution would be to stop the perpetrators from becoming rapists through national education (sex ed classes yo), as preventative measures work better than reactive measures by a long shot.
nyan :3
Youtube Channel i sometimes post videos of other games
If a woman wants to play a "cruel prank" then obviously she is ignoring the law in the first place. Why would a law stop someone who is ignoring the law?

We are only discussing legality right? Not "if I were a woman I would/wouldn't use it for X reason". We are only saying should they be allowed to.
I don't think it's helpful in LEDC countries where literacy amongst the popluation gets as low as 10% and these type of things aren't usually implemented.

Also the law should be enough so this shoudn't be nessassary, especially in places like US.
Originally Posted by ImmortalCow View Post
If a woman wants to play a "cruel prank" then obviously she is ignoring the law in the first place. Why would a law stop someone who is ignoring the law?

We are only discussing legality right? Not "if I were a woman I would/wouldn't use it for X reason". We are only saying should they be allowed to.

There aren't laws in place that govern their use right now. Technically, at best the individual can press assault charges, but then the woman has the defense of saying that she was being raped, as it's a rape-deterrent device. Then it's a he-said-she-said argument, and most courts are notorious at siding with female plaintiffs if the rape card is called.

Hence why I'm against such devices, as valid usage of them isn't guaranteed to stop the assault, and improper usage of them is almost impossible to prevent.
nyan :3
Youtube Channel i sometimes post videos of other games
If anything, laws regarding rape need to be more lenient. I cannot tell you how many times I've heard the story of a dumb, jealous bitch falsely accusing someone for rape because they did not get her the present she wanted for christmas/etc.

It has to be based on evidence, not accusation and accusation alone. There have to be reforms to the way with which it is dealt, along with the consequences for it. It is clearly gender biased, as are many of the other forms of gender vs. gender disputes in courts. Divorce, for instance, is EXTREMELY nice to the female, which entirely devalues the idea of equality, and rather, promotes superiority.

I whole heartedly want equality. Feminist(well, more like durrhurr we have tits and vaginas and are superior) views are absolutely dumbfounding in their stupidity, and if you subscribe to them, I will automatically view you as a less than rational individual, and you will indeed automatically piss me the fuck off.

If it can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt that an incident is rape, and not a plot by a malevolent bitch, punish them, if not, punish the accuser. This will discourage people from making false accusations, and albeit it might scare away actual victims, it will completely get rid of the case of the innocent getting their lives literally broken to pieces because some stupid bitch falsely accuses them for rape. I'd rather the innocent go unpunished, rather than risking the opposite.

The definition of rape should also be revised, as, frankly, the same rule doesn't apply to both genders.

If a girl says stop and you don't, in the US, it is considered rape. However, if a guy says stop to the girl and she does not, it goes unpunished. I know what you're thinking, "how retarded is that guy, he's getting laid", but, it is the same exact rule, and it is supposed to apply to both genders. If you have that mentality, as the quote suggested, there will never be equality. Don't be a little faggot of a chivalrous white knight, the only actual difference between us and them is that they have tits and a vagina, they haven't even been able to obtain equality until only a couple decades ago, no laws should offer them ANY privileges that do not apply to both genders. /rant
Hoss.
Originally Posted by Oracle View Post
There aren't laws in place that govern their use right now. Technically, at best the individual can press assault charges, but then the woman has the defense of saying that she was being raped, as it's a rape-deterrent device. Then it's a he-said-she-said argument, and most courts are notorious at siding with female plaintiffs if the rape card is called.

Hence why I'm against such devices, as valid usage of them isn't guaranteed to stop the assault, and improper usage of them is almost impossible to prevent.

Then that is the problem with the courts not the law.

It is clearly illegal to use an anti-rape device to cause others harm, as much so as if you just go around stabbing people with knives.

Even if she is legitimately being raped, it's not like you are allowed to go around booby-trapping your house to lop off appendages if you are being burgled...
@Cow, A drunk girl forgets to take out her rapeax before sex after meeting some guy at a club one night. (Optional ending - he then beats her to death because she ripped his dick off).

Devices like the rapeax are completely trivial and meaningless when you're looking at the big picture. Rape culture. That's why shit's fucked. If it isn't rape, it's Eve teasing. If you want to change a culture, there has to be some sort of movement - this is what's happening right now.

They'll win eventually - the women, that is. They won the right to vote without the right to vote. Tricky creatures, women are.

Originally Posted by Hyde View Post
If it can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt that an incident is rape, and not a plot by a malevolent bitch, punish them, if not, punish the accuser. This will discourage people from making false accusations, and albeit it might scare away actual victims, it will completely get rid of the case of the innocent getting their lives literally broken to pieces because some stupid bitch falsely accuses them for rape. I'd rather the innocent go unpunished, rather than risking the opposite.

That's what the situations is like in countries under Sharia law. In order for a women to win a rape case, they need to have 4 men present who can confirm the woman's side of the story, by having been present while the rape occurs. If the woman loses the cases, she gets stoned (not even in the good way - she actually gets stoned to death). Women lose rape cases - it's ingrained in the culture's bureaucracy and politics.

I agree with where you're coming from - a friend of mine's brother was imprisoned because of a false rape accusation - but I don't think that's the way to solve it.
Last edited by Ele; Jan 5, 2013 at 02:39 AM.
Originally Posted by Hyde View Post
If anything, laws regarding rape need to be more lenient. I cannot tell you how many times I've heard the story of a dumb, jealous bitch falsely accusing someone for rape because they did not get her the present she wanted for christmas/etc.

It has to be based on evidence, not accusation and accusation alone. There have to be reforms to the way with which it is dealt, along with the consequences for it. It is clearly gender biased, as are many of the other forms of gender vs. gender disputes in courts. Divorce, for instance, is EXTREMELY nice to the female, which entirely devalues the idea of equality, and rather, promotes superiority.

I whole heartedly want equality. Feminist(well, more like durrhurr we have tits and vaginas and are superior) views are absolutely dumbfounding in their stupidity, and if you subscribe to them, I will automatically view you as a less than rational individual, and you will indeed automatically piss me the fuck off.

If it can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt that an incident is rape, and not a plot by a malevolent bitch, punish them, if not, punish the accuser. This will discourage people from making false accusations, and albeit it might scare away actual victims, it will completely get rid of the case of the innocent getting their lives literally broken to pieces because some stupid bitch falsely accuses them for rape. I'd rather the innocent go unpunished, rather than risking the opposite.

The definition of rape should also be revised, as, frankly, the same rule doesn't apply to both genders.

If a girl says stop and you don't, in the US, it is considered rape. However, if a guy says stop to the girl and she does not, it goes unpunished. I know what you're thinking, "how retarded is that guy, he's getting laid", but, it is the same exact rule, and it is supposed to apply to both genders. If you have that mentality, as the quote suggested, there will never be equality. Don't be a little faggot of a chivalrous white knight, the only actual difference between us and them is that they have tits and a vagina, they haven't even been able to obtain equality until only a couple decades ago, no laws should offer them ANY privileges that do not apply to both genders. /rant

"Sorry guys, laws only stop the honest people"

And if women want to be treated equal, they should be faced with equal charges. (Borderline Misogynist here) because feminist urk me like no other who will want to be treated equal, then be quit to be like... oh you can't do that she's a woman! PFFT! anyways, with rape cases it's never okay but with laws like they are now I do think a little bit of a let up is in order. Because some prissy little bitch is going to say "OH HE RAPED ME!" just cause they looked at her funny. I also saw a facebook post like this. (Can't find it, I looked for a good hour)

ANYWAYS!!! there's my case.
But in all reality... I think I might be insane...