you forgot the part where I was proving that your argument doesnt make sense, gg.
the same relation of movement applies if its grabbed there too, but the only noticable difference based on the grab spot is the grab angle and wrist position, sometimes the grabber cant turn the wrist well(or dm it) or move the foot in sensible directions anyway. and again, the only place the grabber can somewhat repeatably grab is the crotch, and the other leg can easily get in the way especially due to erratic knee and ankle movement. what was your argument again?