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Originally Posted by ImmortalPig View Post
What?



Try dieing with some souls and humanity using the dark sign, and see if they are recoverable.



Like I said, it does not create a bloodstain, it destroys the humanity and souls. When you die regularly it creates a bloodstain and you can recover them.



Dark sign is not the same as dieing, despite what the description tells you. Jalis claims it is the same, which it most certainly is not, in which case it is another glitch.



If Jalis is just shit posting and actually it is not supposed to let you recover your souls and humanity, then it's not a glitch but the description is incorrect.





Try actually using the item and you can observe the failure first hand.


I repeat what Jalis said. Can you even read? Why does it matter if you can't understand the simple interworkings of a game? You get killed. You come back to life as a hollow-thing (too dense to remember the name) and you have one chance to return to your former self. If you die on the journey there, you bwgin again as a hollow-thing. Is this really that hard for you to understand? That's exactly what the description tells you, and that's exactly what everyone else is telling you. If you can't understand, stop responding, because that's the best answer you're gonna get.


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Originally Posted by Grohenbird View Post
I repeat what Jalis said. Can you even read? Why does it matter if you can't understand the simple interworkings of a game? You get killed. You come back to life as a hollow-thing (too dense to remember the name) and you have one chance to return to your former self. If you die on the journey there, you bwgin again as a hollow-thing. Is this really that hard for you to understand? That's exactly what the description tells you, and that's exactly what everyone else is telling you. If you can't understand, stop responding, because that's the best answer you're gonna get.


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lol wtf are you trolling?

It has nothing to do with dying twice. That has nothing to do with what the description says. Even if you die with nothing you will drop a bloodstain, that is why if you die on the journey your previous bloodstain is erased - you can only have 1 bloodstain at a time. Using the glitched/mis-described darksign does not create a bloodstain and therefore will not erase your previous one.

The item says it triggers on death. Yet when triggered manually it does something different to death.

YOU DO NOT DROP BLOODSTAIN IF YOU TRIGGER DARKSIGN MANUALLY.

YOU DO DROP BLOODSTAIN IF DARKSIGN IS TRIGGERED AUTOMATICALLY ON DEATH.

Either it erroneously behaves differently when triggered manually, or the description is incorrect. Have you ever even used the item? Go try it, you will see for yourself it does not generate a bloodstain.
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Originally Posted by ImmortalPig View Post
lol wtf are you trolling?



It has nothing to do with dying twice. That has nothing to do with what the description says. Even if you die with nothing you will drop a bloodstain, that is why if you die on the journey your previous bloodstain is erased - you can only have 1 bloodstain at a time. Using the glitched/mis-described darksign does not create a bloodstain and therefore will not erase your previous one.



The item says it triggers on death. Yet when triggered manually it does something different to death.



YOU DO NOT DROP BLOODSTAIN IF YOU TRIGGER DARKSIGN MANUALLY.



YOU DO DROP BLOODSTAIN IF DARKSIGN IS TRIGGERED AUTOMATICALLY ON DEATH.



Either it erroneously behaves differently when triggered manually, or the description is incorrect. Have you ever even used the item? Go try it, you will see for yourself it does not generate a bloodstain.


May I suggest instead of complaining about yourself being a dimwit, you possibly just not use the Darksign? I mean, that's literally the only issue you're having, right? So quit arguing and stop fussing. You're annoying and just making yourself look foolish.


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Originally Posted by Grohenbird View Post
May I suggest instead of complaining about yourself being a dimwit, you possibly just not use the Darksign? I mean, that's literally the only issue you're having, right? So quit arguing and stop fussing. You're annoying and just making yourself look foolish.


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What... I just said the description is wrong and not to trust what the game says ever, then Jalis said 'hurr durr it works as indented you just can't read', when clearly the description is wrong...

Jesus some Darksouls fans are annoying "game is broken but you just gotta learn to live with it u r dum hurrrr".
<Faint> the rules have been stated quite clearly 3 times now from high staff
Can't believe you idiots actually argued about it for this long. Using the Dark Sign manually does not let you recover anything. A little common sense should go a long way as to why this is.
Last edited by Jalis; Jan 16, 2014 at 07:13 AM.
Why are you still in this thread Jalis?
Honestly?
Just let them believe whatever.

Also, started to play again, missed the game although no clue how to actually build my character, so just playing around for now!
Last edited by Dagger; Jan 16, 2014 at 07:09 PM.
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Ey guys.
Doing new strenght build.
What weapon would you recommend to use? Mainly for PvP.
Atm using large club +13 because of the excellent scaling. And i kinda like its moveset.

And i don't get what is broken and what the hell are you arguing...

Darksign: Quote from Wiki. "Using the Darksign causes the player to return to the last Bonfire they rested at, but also causes the player to lose all humanity and souls on the person at the time."

What is so hard to understand?

It just travels you back to last bonfire rested at and you lose humanity and souls.

fuck
Originally Posted by Jalis View Post
Can't believe you idiots actually argued about it for this long. Using the Dark Sign manually does not let you recover anything. A little common sense should go a long way as to why this is.

No shit it doesn't. But when it is automatically triggered it still lets you recover things. That seems pretty fucking important to me. Half of what the item does is incorrectly described.
Originally Posted by Zapekk View Post
Darksign: Quote from Wiki. "Using the Darksign causes the player to return to the last Bonfire they rested at, but also causes the player to lose all humanity and souls on the person at the time."

What is so hard to understand?

It just travels you back to last bonfire rested at and you lose humanity and souls.

Ok? But the ingame description is clearly wrong. Jalis claimed it was correct, which it absolutely is not. I played along saying "hurr it must be bug then".

Do you guys all play with game guides or something? Maybe I was wrong to just stick with ingame descriptions.
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Originally Posted by ImmortalPig View Post
Do you guys all play with game guides or something? Maybe I was wrong to just stick with ingame descriptions.

I know what you mean, and I completely agree.
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