Originally Posted by William

kicking mod, idk why you're considering it a meta. erthtk/tk is just a striking mod with different tf, don't you agree?

Originally Posted by adam2332

im gonna have to disagree

this may be a bad analogy but how i like to think of it is that, erthtk to tk is sort of like lenshu3ng to wushu. there is the same core play type that comes to mind since they're mods of similar types.
but when it comes to the technicals it isn't quite the same (although it might not be as drastic as the striking mods.)

just like hax said before
for example in tk a block that is not well placed or brute forced their way through will result in a arm dm of somekind.

meanwhile in erthtk, the higher dm threshold prevents these as well as the seemingly random dm's that occur when you move a bruised joint and it just falls off (to an extent.)
also the higher gravity and out of ring dojo dq in erthtk prevents wrist break runners from floating away once they have a mere 1k point lead

Originally Posted by SmallBowl

erthtk and tk have a completely different playstyle to the striking mods, theyre not focused on comebacks and chaaing at all, im not the best person to explain this, but although the aim is pretty much tge same with the focus usally being damage not disqualification, the meta is totally different

the problem with having 3 is that this means the peobability of having one of these mods is increased compared with kicking and grappling, unless you can find another mod that is suitable for each of these

rb_greykido or spiritwrestling with abd and greykido perhaps for grappling, but what about for kicking?

Originally Posted by William

I don't see why TK deserves more than 1 mod, it's the same TF/same gravity. tk/erthtk/kickboxing all have the same idea, with erthtkv2 being the best version as people seem to think. this is not the same for three striking mods.

Originally Posted by SmallBowl

in the same way as other people before misunderstood rk-mma vs lenshu I think you are misunderstanding the kicking mods, cowmeat im sure will see this at some point and explain in more detail than me, but the gravity in erthtk is higher than in tk, making it a lot less floaty and harder to run, also due to the no dq ring more focus is placed on damage and less on dq.

kickbox is even more diffeeent, the 20 turn frames really change the accuracy and make plain defending more difficult as ayou cant react to all your opponents movements in time.

I wouldnt put aikido.tbm, I dont see it as competitive as thr others mentioned, I would add rb_greykido

Originally Posted by cowmeat

Okay now you're talking a bit out of your bum. I dont disagree that both erthtk and tk shouldnt be included. But just to clarify. Kickboxing has lower engage distance, 20tf. more matchframes. How is that not as much different as rkmma vs lenshu. secondly.

"It's the same TF/same gravity."

Tk and erthtk has different gravity, different dm threshold, other one has dojo and different matchframes.

I feel like you dont understand those two mods enough to compare them to lets say rk/lenshu differences. I could easily argue that Rk and lenshu are almost the same. since in both you just crabstance and lunge yourself into your opponent feet first. with 10tf difference.

Im not saying that per say. But I dont think Rk, wushu and lenshu (all of them) should be included.

You are massively biased at this matter (so am I but i feel a bit less). You say
"Stricking is a massive part of this game"
Not even remotely big as the aikidos, why arent you arguing for 3 different greykidos then.


Double also. Snake asked me to come up with a slight competitive variation to erthtk to make it even more competitive, showing off that soon after testing.