I just think that if nobody is around who is likely to get offended then it doesn't matter what you say. If you are obviously going to offend someone if you say something then don't say it unless you have to.
Maybe faggot would be a better equivalent? Gay just mean gay, faggot is a slur. Nevertheless, still pretty different issues, I would stick to looking at racism as it is, rather than in comparison to a different kind of discrimination.
Originally Posted by Pidgenere
Hmm, that was a slip up on my part. I was comparing Nigger and gay in some sort of modified way.
The way I thought about it is that both word has a dark past, of course with nigger you have the years of discrimination and segregation, and with gay you have the years of the gays struggling to fit in to the "Perfect" society.
Maybe faggot would be a better equivalent? Gay just mean gay, faggot is a slur. Nevertheless, still pretty different issues, I would stick to looking at racism as it is, rather than in comparison to a different kind of discrimination.
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Originally Posted by Zelda
I just think that if nobody is around who is likely to get offended then it doesn't matter what you say. If you are obviously going to offend someone if you say something then don't say it unless you have to.
That is actually a good rule of thumb. Keep the consequences of your words in mind. Even if you don't offend anybody you might come across as rude.
I find it kind of funny how big of a fuss racism is overseas. Everybody's racist, it's human nature. When somebody is different from you, you take a mental note. It's all about being and not being a dick about it that makes a difference.
Then there's the other side of things, blacks and their own racism. They abuse racism to their benefit while being racists themselves.
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I have never said the 'n' word in any form of context. I especially get angry when both white and black people use it in a joking manner. This is a word that originates from when blacks were mistreated (nice way of putting it), so I still get a little frustrated.
As for comparing 'gay' to 'nigger', well, that's stretching it a bit. Saying 'gay' doesn't have the same effect, simply because homosexuality didn't go through the same experiences as blacks did. And out of both words (not sure if people will agree with this) nigger just sounds so much worse. I don't know what it is about it, but it just sounds horrid.
Let's be honest, people aren't really offended by the 'gay' insult anymore, simply because it's becoming a lot more accepted into society. The fact that gay also used to mean 'happy' takes the edge off of it too.
As for comparing 'gay' to 'nigger', well, that's stretching it a bit. Saying 'gay' doesn't have the same effect, simply because homosexuality didn't go through the same experiences as blacks did. And out of both words (not sure if people will agree with this) nigger just sounds so much worse. I don't know what it is about it, but it just sounds horrid.
Let's be honest, people aren't really offended by the 'gay' insult anymore, simply because it's becoming a lot more accepted into society. The fact that gay also used to mean 'happy' takes the edge off of it too.
I'm perfectly fine with people saying "nigga" in a non-offensive way, the word is so omnipresent in today's culture (music, tv shows, movies, internet slang...) that its original meaning just vanished, people pretty much use it like "dude" or "mate".
For me, it's actually positive because it became a "group inclusion" word instead of "hate exclusion" one.
Language evolves, it never stops evolving. Words lose their meaning, find new ones, new uses, or disappear, and new words appear.
For me, it's actually positive because it became a "group inclusion" word instead of "hate exclusion" one.
Language evolves, it never stops evolving. Words lose their meaning, find new ones, new uses, or disappear, and new words appear.
Originally Posted by MintCat
I have never said the 'n' word in any form of context. I especially get angry when both white and black people use it in a joking manner. This is a word that originates from when blacks were mistreated (nice way of putting it), so I still get a little frustrated.
As for comparing 'gay' to 'nigger', well, that's stretching it a bit. Saying 'gay' doesn't have the same effect, simply because homosexuality didn't go through the same experiences as blacks did. And out of both words (not sure if people will agree with this) nigger just sounds so much worse. I don't know what it is about it, but it just sounds horrid.
Let's be honest, people aren't really offended by the 'gay' insult anymore, simply because it's becoming a lot more accepted into society. The fact that gay also used to mean 'happy' takes the edge off of it too.
I know it was a terrible thing what happened to blacks, but literally NOBODY is even alive anymore from that era. Let's be real here, almost all of the blacks that get angry when white people say nigga, say it themselves amongst BLACK friends, and say white people are being racist by saying it. No they are being racist by using the word and getting mad when whites do, it makes no sense to me.
