Originally Posted by mwah
sure, white people can be offended. I don't see how they wouldn't have that right it really goes both ways. and if a white person can get offended by the word you have to assume that a black person would. so why say it?
Yes, obviously, white people can be offended by the word. What I'm questioning is whether the offence they take is justifiable. White people can never be targeted by the word the same way black people can. White people don't have the heritage that makes the word offensive to them in the first place. White people that get offended by the word are co-opting the outrage, because they feel guilty. This white guilt feeds into my point about the 'gotcha' mentality.
Originally Posted by mwah
also I don't know what you mean by the gotcha mentality, elaborate?
The second a white person uses the word, even when they're clearly not using it to direct hate at black people, everyone instantly jumps down their throats (I'm sure we've all seen this often in IRC/ingame and often in the media). We're sooo quick to try to destroy people for speaking like normal. That's what I mean when I say 'gotcha' - it's this hyper politically correct/SJW mentality that's powered by co-opted outrage and white guilt.
Last edited by Ele; Oct 12, 2015 at 04:17 AM.
I think that white people shouldnt use the n word and the same goes for black people, its offensive as hell eitherway, but if a black person says it and a white person says it they should get equal punishment, aka it should just be a word that is in general banned from this game black or white
Why ban freedom of speech? Sure, it's a terrible word, but this only got brought up because people get overly offended by it. People file reports for someone saying nigga. Once. I have a big issue with people who are genuinely racist, but going so far as to ban free speech in a fucking video game because kids don't have a thick enough skin to use the Internet is just ridiculous.
tl;dr: man up instead of playing the race card instantly.
tl;dr: man up instead of playing the race card instantly.
I think I might be retired.
Originally Posted by Veoo
I think that white people shouldnt use the n word and the same goes for black people, its offensive as hell eitherway, but if a black person says it and a white person says it they should get equal punishment, aka it should just be a word that is in general banned from this game black or white
If someone says nigger, and does not use it in any sort of direct and hateful way, then they should not be punished.
Also, claiming that a word that was used against an entire race of people in a contemptible, and the people who were using that word against then should be punished equally is pretty god damned stupid if you ask me.
Valterain1 was defeated by hermaphrodite on Oct 17, 2015.
Originally Posted by Valterain1
Also, claiming that a word that was used against an entire race of people in a contemptible, and the people who were using that word against then should be punished equally is pretty god damned stupid if you ask me.
The scenario you are imagining is a descendent of a slaver (since slavery ended 6 generations ago, their great great great grandparent presumably) calling a descent of a slave (a great great great grandchild of a slave) "nigger" and thinking "oh how horrific, they will have flashbacks to 100+ years before they were born".
But the word was only derogatory in a small part of the world for a short duration of time. The vast majority of whites never had any of their ancestors involved in the slave trade in any way. Do you really think a white guy from Montenegro saying "sup my nigger" to a Japanese-Brazil is somehow worse than "NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER" - song by some black guy because the slav is white?
FYI, it's not nice to utilize any word as a pejorative, regardless of the history. People don't think "hey don't call me that my great great great great uncle was a slave", they think "I don't like that".
The history is totally irrelevant. Political power of blacks and excessive race baiting aside, no one without an agenda is actually offended by the word nigger.
Originally Posted by HiPower
white people have this misconception that the n-word is a term of endearment. it's not.
babycakes is a term of endearment.
sugarpie is a term of endearment.
nigger is not.
slavery might not be happening anymore and jim crow might be gone—but when a white person uses the n-word casually, it's a reminder of the powerful oppression that once was (and still is, to a lesser extent).
the n-word is the only thing in our culture over which Black people have exclusive domain. all Black people know (and damn near all white people understand) that any use of the n-word by any other race other than Black people (Hispanics have been given somewhat of a pass with using the word) is socially unacceptable simply because the n-word has historically been used as a term for power and oppression over an entire population of people which literally lasted hundreds of years.
the use of the n-word amongst Black people is really a reminder to the dominant society that all the power that word once had—the dehumanization of an entire population for hundreds of years—has now been completely stripped away. using that word is the one thing a Black person can do that a white person cannot do in a social setting.
:^)
Biggest bait ITT, surprised no one bit already.
EDIT: Except Grohenbird, he bit, not hard but he had a nibble
Last edited by ImmortalPig; Oct 12, 2015 at 05:40 PM.
<Faint> the rules have been stated quite clearly 3 times now from high staff
