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If you're in the situation where you can afford a SG, but your opponents couldn't afford an awp, then your opponents are either getting stomped, or they're doing eco, in which case it doesn't matter they ain't peeking long.
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Originally Posted by Oracle
If you're in the situation where you can afford a SG, but your opponents couldn't afford an awp, then your opponents are either getting stomped, or they're doing eco, in which case it doesn't matter they ain't peeking long.
Id say its quite an usual situation tbf. SG isnt that much more expensive than ak.
Let's looks at possible income per round.
Most income you can make is $3500 after a round from winning by blowing up the bomb as T. Least income you can make is $1400 if you lose a round.
Let's assume you spent all your money on pistol round and won as T by blowing up the bomb. SG costs $3500, you earned $3500, you could buy a SG. Let's assume you do.
Let's assume somebody on CT only bought a defuse kit on pistol round. They have enough to buy a Scout. Let's assume they do, and said fuck all to playing eco like they should have.
You are now fighting a Scout on long. You have miraculously found the one situation where you might credibly buy SG and your opponent cannot buy an AWP that isn't eco. Unfortunately, this requires your opponent to be an idiot and attempt to scout while the rest of his team is eco, you likely have a person on your team using a scout already who could do the job of SG on long better, and you could have just bought a smoke grenade and an ak and still had money left over and still fucked over the scout.
Any other situation, your team has to have earned more than $3500 but less than $4750 at some point, because then you either can't afford it, or might as well just AWP on long, and your opponents had to have earned less than $3100, otherwise they'll just buy M4. And any situation where you'd want to exchange fire in long could be avoided with a $300 purchase of a smoke.
Most income you can make is $3500 after a round from winning by blowing up the bomb as T. Least income you can make is $1400 if you lose a round.
Let's assume you spent all your money on pistol round and won as T by blowing up the bomb. SG costs $3500, you earned $3500, you could buy a SG. Let's assume you do.
Let's assume somebody on CT only bought a defuse kit on pistol round. They have enough to buy a Scout. Let's assume they do, and said fuck all to playing eco like they should have.
You are now fighting a Scout on long. You have miraculously found the one situation where you might credibly buy SG and your opponent cannot buy an AWP that isn't eco. Unfortunately, this requires your opponent to be an idiot and attempt to scout while the rest of his team is eco, you likely have a person on your team using a scout already who could do the job of SG on long better, and you could have just bought a smoke grenade and an ak and still had money left over and still fucked over the scout.
Any other situation, your team has to have earned more than $3500 but less than $4750 at some point, because then you either can't afford it, or might as well just AWP on long, and your opponents had to have earned less than $3100, otherwise they'll just buy M4. And any situation where you'd want to exchange fire in long could be avoided with a $300 purchase of a smoke.
nyan :3
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Originally Posted by Oracle
Let's looks at possible income per round.
Most income you can make is $3500 after a round from winning by blowing up the bomb as T. Least income you can make is $1400 if you lose a round.
Let's assume you spent all your money on pistol round and won as T by blowing up the bomb. SG costs $3500, you earned $3500, you could buy a SG. Let's assume you do.
Let's assume somebody on CT only bought a defuse kit on pistol round. They have enough to buy a Scout. Let's assume they do, and said fuck all to playing eco like they should have.
You are now fighting a Scout on long. You have miraculously found the one situation where you might credibly buy SG and your opponent cannot buy an AWP that isn't eco. Unfortunately, this requires your opponent to be an idiot and attempt to scout while the rest of his team is eco, you likely have a person on your team using a scout already who could do the job of SG on long better, and you could have just bought a smoke grenade and an ak and still had money left over and still fucked over the scout.
Any other situation, your team has to have earned more than $3500 but less than $4750 at some point, because then you either can't afford it, or might as well just AWP on long, and your opponents had to have earned less than $3100, otherwise they'll just buy M4. And any situation where you'd want to exchange fire in long could be avoided with a $300 purchase of a smoke.
That is just blatantly wrong, using maths and simplifying like that ignores so much of the actual gameplay. You are literally looking at only one rounds income which means very little in a 30 round game.
Quasi-buys, ecos, forces and 5x rifle buys are collectively more common than AWP rounds Id say (no data to back this up other than personal xp).
Firstly, did I say it has to be ECO? Normal ct buy round is enough. What you are saying that every buy round has to have AWP? Thats not true at all. If CT has 4500 all across the board, they are either gonna go 5x M4 or 4x m4 and 1x scout. They arent gonna eco just so that they can get awp next round.
In situations like that (which are pretty fucking common) SG shines in certain positions. Now Im not saying SG is right for every position, obviously not. But to say that it has no place or that AK is always better, is just misunderstanding the game or the weapon.
Last edited by panttersin; Jan 22, 2016 at 08:48 PM.
