Originally Posted by
Gynx
That's fair. I think people should be encouraged to not visit boards that they're not interested in, but I think there's a difference between that and not visiting a board as volatile as wibbles can be. There's not many people here that will stand for harassment even if it's in a board they normally would ignore and there's no reason why they should. Probably something a lot of the nostalgic users have forgotten is that those types of rules were enforced due to the fact that people complained so often. I feel that it's a lot easier on everyone if we say to those users "well, you opted in on that content" if they complain about it, rather than the opposite.
Staff complained about it, not users. This isn't a nostalgia issue, it's a divide between the staff and the normal users. Back when wibbles was actually around, who complained about it? Think back, it was people who were elitist and "too cool to use wibbles". It was staff who wanted to exert their control, and demanded respect.
The vast majority of users had no problem with the board.
I really don't get this argument that a wibbles board would absolutely demand that people visit it. And if it did, would "opt-in" really fix that problem? No, it wouldn't, because people would absolutely opt in then... Tell people that maybe they shouldn't read a board that they don't want to read. I don't know why we are having this discussion, this is so dumb.
Harassment is against the board rules, though I don't see how you can harass someone who neither replies to your posts, nor reads them.
Originally Posted by
Gynx
TP/VIP is opt-in, it's just done via. a paywall. There's plenty of ways to handle opt-in stuff, the easiest would have it be a disabled-by-default board unless you subscribe to it. Regarding staff workload - if you think that reintroducing wibbles isn't another thing that's going to give staff work to do you're sorely mistaken. Either way, no matter how we do it and if we do it at all I'd like to reiterate that this is just my opinion, no means am I saying "this is the way we must do it" and I am open to other avenues of introduction of the board, again, if it happens.
Opt-in via pay wall is just pay wall. Buying TP does not imply that you will read/post on TP board. There are plenty of people who bought TP and do not post there. It's not opt-in at all, it's just pay walled.
There are plenty of people who would give you rules modifications, just give someone who cares about the forums the power and they will do the work for you. I will never advocate for forcing staff do something they don't want to, just find someone who will do the job.