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Originally Posted by OrAclE View Post
Stupid. That's not the reason for the Second Amendment. Read up on your history before you say something so uninformed.

In the previous gun control thread, which was deleted <.<, I stated that the Second Amendment originated so that the American government could create a militia out of the civilian population to defend it's borders because they had a small army in comparision to it's territory size.

Then why are we also protected from being forced to let servicemen stay in our home? (in the same document, might i add)
They also pissed off England, who had a much larger and well trained army, along with better commanders, supplies, and in general huge advantage. They needed all the hands they could get. Now, you have a large standing army, with a large reserve force, with a stockpile of long-range missles and nuclear weapons. You don't need a militia to defend your borders anymore.

You're assuming the original states treated the rights as mandates, which I assure you they did not.
This amendment can be further traced back to England, where the right to bear arms was granted to the citizens to help maintain law and order in their country because they had a small law enforcement group that could only cover so much land. You now have a large law enforcement population in America, so this reason could not back up your need for weapons.

@bolded: Which are payed by/loyal to.. wait for it... the government!
Plus, democracy means you vote in the people you believe would best represent you. Why on earth would you need to defend yourself from them unless your democracy is shitty? Are you implying that the supposedly greatest nation on the planet is a total lie? Or are you just one of the multiple republican fear-mongers who think the government is out to get you? Believe me, if the government WAS out to get you, we'd already be under their heel. So shut up about the "defend ourselves from the government" crap.

People will believe anything as long as the media repeats it enough. There's a whole movement against "global climate change" which was previously "global warming" and before that "global cooling." Really now? If CNN or MSNBC prances around telling the general public to vote for x next year, x is going to be elected.
Last edited by waphtuos; Sep 8, 2009 at 03:13 AM. Reason: tiepos
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