Hydrotoxin: You should learn now that not everyone is worth debating with. Some basis and grounds to be established between people before an convincing arguments can be made. To call you insane isn't fair, but the simple fact remains that I find the fact you refuse to accept the existence of natural rights is a basis of a great deal of philosophy that I believe in. And that all objectivists in our society. So I am sorry I "disappointed" you for leaving this debate. There is a certain line where I am going to bend to opinions of other. This is honestly, for me, equivalent to accepting that all of our laws of physics are just lies and are wrong, so I can't just "cope" to those circumstances.

If you have a vent channel you want to discuss this with me, I will be more than happy to discuss this further with you.