Originally Posted by protonitron
You can have freedom in certain different areas. The number and significance of these areas can mean that overall you have more freedom.
We are talking about freedom of speech, you can't have half a freedom of speech.
Originally Posted by Ele
Yeah. It's mostly, or partly free. These non-binary scales are recognised by all the freedom indices.
I disagree.
If there are restrictions, it's not free. You can be part way to freedom, or most of the way, but it's not "mostly free" or "partly free".
Your disagreement on the basis of 'freedom indices' is meaningless. They measure aggregate or total freedom, and use terms like "partly free" only for convenience.
Originally Posted by Ele
Because you're creating a system in which the will of a few decide the fate of all. You're creating an oligarchy - this is no different from the situation we have now. I started this thread asking for suggestions on how to fix the current situation, not replicate it. This is why I won't agree with you.
An oligarchy based on relevant education is not the same as an oligarchy of professional politicians.
Originally Posted by Boredpayne
If someone is allowed to say more in one country, that country guarantees more freedom of speech.
Whether on purpose or not, I think you are confusing the political right with the semantics. Yes, countries have 'freedom of speech' and they put restrictions on it. In that way freedom of speech is entirely binary.
If the restrictions are different they are different, but to say one country guarantees more freedom of speech is definitely incorrect. This is not a question of more freedom, but of less restriction.
Originally Posted by Boredpayne
Similarly, it is likewise unreasonable to deny that plumber the right to self-determination.
Of course.
Though I wonder why you would bring that up, as no one was saying otherwise...
Originally Posted by Boredpayne
EDIT: Since you don't have an extensive expertise of political philosophy, every post you make rebuts your own argument, so that's kinda funny.
Incorrect, under today's system I am entirely allowed to argue this position. Under the system I proposed experts would take over and could well create a better system.
You can't just go around pretending that things are they way you want them to be!
<Faint> the rules have been stated quite clearly 3 times now from high staff
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