I would like to start a discussion about a topic which has been debated about quite a lot before (usually with quite a strong polarity between each side).

Do you think a certain degree of luck is present in toribash regardless of the mod?

Do you think it is enough of a factor to make the correlation between winning and actual skill unreliable?

What do you think constitutes 'luck' in the game? E.g. Is it simply factors you can't predict or prepare for or is it when the extremely improbably things happen which are completely beyond your control?

If you feel like I am being too vague in my questions then please just ask for more details rather than ranting at me about it. And try to be understanding of other people's points of view.