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On the point of 'is this war on terror/war on ISIS an actual war' - yeah it is. The nature of warfare is ever changing. We call these types of wars 'New Wars'. Wars aren't necessarily between two states, or localised in one theatre. The concept of a battlefield doesn't exist anymore, the whole world is the battlefield. Since the 90s, these 'New Wars' have had an increasingly eschatological slant and since the 70s there's been a significant decrease in the amount of interstate wars. The wars we think of when we think of the word 'war' are the 'traditional' types of wars, dominated by Clausewitzian thinking. That's old school, though. Many of the traditional assumptions of warfare no longer relate to the current nature of it. Our war with ISIS is a war. It's a war between an exclusivist (Salafi jihadists) and cosmopolitan identity group. They're reliant on guerrilla techniques and counterinsurgency (international terrorism = modern guerrilla warfare). Their territory is controlled by political manipulation by peddling fear and hatred. State's no longer have a monopoly on legitimised political violence - this has been steadily eroding along with the changing nature of warfare.

Originally Posted by cowmeat View Post
"But all of a sudden we expect war to be a noble thing"

There are things like warcrimes, Geneva conventions (protocols of war) etc., so yeah, we kind of do expect war to be atleast somewhat "noble"

Expanding on this point, over the last half century war has become far less total. We do not go in with everything we have. We take care in selecting methods that produce the least collateral damage. I don't know if 'noble' is the best word to describe, but there's international norms that focus on making war more humane.

Originally Posted by Zelda View Post
I'm afraid I am not buying that these attacks are motivated by anything other than the urge to satisfy religious hatred in the short-term. They are doing this for their ideology, not for their war effort.

Their ideology and their war effort are the same thing. Their ideology is jihad - 'holy war'. This eschatological type of war, while being religious in nature, isn't solely motivated by religion. Do you disagree that economic aspirations and geopolitics have influenced ISIS's formation and how the conduct themselves in their jihad?