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I said whether or not they pay for it. The other alternatives were just me ballparking, an event to bring back wibbles and give people access (if it were decided to be opt-in) is not a bad idea. I just think if we're doing something to bring it back we might as well make a meal out of it.


I hear you, but we have different opinions on what "opt-in" is. Boards like wibbles bring a lot of blowback and while it would be nice if everyone could enjoy it, a lot of people don't. It's not uncommon for legitimate cases of harassment and so on to arise and while it is not something you might care to consider, our staff generally does. Wibbles has always had these issues historically and attempts at even creating boards like it (TP) has yielded similar results. It would be naive to think the same might not happen and whilst its one thing to ignore say, the market board, it's another to ignore a board of people that are harassing you.


I'm sure doom-saying might get a reaction from other pro-wibblers but I'd like to remind you that we've been down this road before and... we're still here. It's almost the oldest Toribash meme at this point to say stuff like this. That said, I don't think that I'm "championing the minority", I think I'm considering all avenues of implementation - like a community manager should. There's nothing unfair about making the board opt-in that you've raised outside of the vice grip assumption that you have on the idea we're going to nickel and dime the entry fee, which I doubt would be the case at all. If the "safe spacers" were the minority you might not have seen the old wibbles with so many added restrictions towards the end, where one word posts and bashing threads were banned, "above user" threads were restricted, posts with "a bunch of space" were infractable, etc. You act like responding to complaints is something we've only just started to do.


That's fair. I think people should be encouraged to not visit boards that they're not interested in, but I think there's a difference between that and not visiting a board as volatile as wibbles can be. There's not many people here that will stand for harassment even if it's in a board they normally would ignore and there's no reason why they should. Probably something a lot of the nostalgic users have forgotten is that those types of rules were enforced due to the fact that people complained so often. I feel that it's a lot easier on everyone if we say to those users "well, you opted in on that content" if they complain about it, rather than the opposite.


TP/VIP is opt-in, it's just done via. a paywall. There's plenty of ways to handle opt-in stuff, the easiest would have it be a disabled-by-default board unless you subscribe to it. Regarding staff workload - if you think that reintroducing wibbles isn't another thing that's going to give staff work to do you're sorely mistaken. Either way, no matter how we do it and if we do it at all I'd like to reiterate that this is just my opinion, no means am I saying "this is the way we must do it" and I am open to other avenues of introduction of the board, again, if it happens.