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Born Gay
Whether sexual orientation is a trait we are born with (nature) or is caused by the environment we are raised in (nurture) has been debated by scientists, religious leaders, elected officials, and the general public.
Proponents argue that sexual orientation, much like handedness or tongue curling, is determined by natural, immutable biological factors such as genes or hormones, and therefore gay people should be entitled to the same legal rights and protections as other human beings.
Opponents argue that homosexuality is a reversible and unfortunate lifestyle choice resulting from poor child-parent relationships, sexual abuse, brainwashing by pro-gay influences, or other developmental causes. Some contend that gay people should be denied marriage, discrimination protection, and social and religious acceptance.
TL ; DR Do you think human beings are born gay, or do they develop these traits from their lifestyle?
Proponents argue that sexual orientation, much like handedness or tongue curling, is determined by natural, immutable biological factors such as genes or hormones, and therefore gay people should be entitled to the same legal rights and protections as other human beings.
Opponents argue that homosexuality is a reversible and unfortunate lifestyle choice resulting from poor child-parent relationships, sexual abuse, brainwashing by pro-gay influences, or other developmental causes. Some contend that gay people should be denied marriage, discrimination protection, and social and religious acceptance.
TL ; DR Do you think human beings are born gay, or do they develop these traits from their lifestyle?
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There hasn't been any evidence that people are born gay, so I personally would believe that it could be based on environment factors or something like that. I think those that are gay 'become' gay very early on, resulting in their realization of sexual orientation later in life however. Ultimately, why does it even matter?
Gay people don't have a choice whether or not they want to be gay; that's just the way it is. There is no 'reversal process', and anyone who claims there is, is a religious fanatic. It's not like a gay person just decides one day, "Hm, I'm gay". It's a gradual thing that people come to realize, some earlier, some later. It's stupid to restrict rights on someone who can't control who they are. It's the same argument people used to slave black people, based on religious texts and the sort.
"Brainwashing by pro-gay influences" is just laughable. Tons of people grow up in areas where you are specifically taught that it is wrong to be gay, and end up being gay anyways. Someone's sexuality isn't your business, and everyone deserves the same basic rights, regardless of their sexuality or race.
Gay people don't have a choice whether or not they want to be gay; that's just the way it is. There is no 'reversal process', and anyone who claims there is, is a religious fanatic. It's not like a gay person just decides one day, "Hm, I'm gay". It's a gradual thing that people come to realize, some earlier, some later. It's stupid to restrict rights on someone who can't control who they are. It's the same argument people used to slave black people, based on religious texts and the sort.
"Brainwashing by pro-gay influences" is just laughable. Tons of people grow up in areas where you are specifically taught that it is wrong to be gay, and end up being gay anyways. Someone's sexuality isn't your business, and everyone deserves the same basic rights, regardless of their sexuality or race.
Whether someone who is gay accepts it or doesn't. They don't have a choice. Doctors referred to homosexuality as a disease when it came to scientific diagnosis until the 1970's. But is no longer viewed that way.
There is no proof of it being genetic, being born that way, or how you were raised. So no one can say for certain. Which is why this whole discussion will turn religious, and not the best.
I honestly don't know. But i sure as hell know homosexuality isn't a choice. That is all.
There is no proof of it being genetic, being born that way, or how you were raised. So no one can say for certain. Which is why this whole discussion will turn religious, and not the best.
I honestly don't know. But i sure as hell know homosexuality isn't a choice. That is all.
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Being gay is basically like having a different taste of music than your friend. You cant change the fact that you are gay, but you can influence the type of person you are. Such as some people closet their sexuality until they are older and more mature, others prefer to come out early on and show that is who they are.
The people that try and take the rights of gay couples are ridiculous. They are doing that only because they believe it is wrong. The point of being married to most people is you have a large amount of love with someone and you wanna make that bond stronger. But in reality if you get married, you are a liability for your partner. If your partner is hospitalized, who makes the important decisions if they cannot? Their husband or wife in most cases, and if gay couples never get those rights then their partner cannot make that decision.
The people that try and take the rights of gay couples are ridiculous. They are doing that only because they believe it is wrong. The point of being married to most people is you have a large amount of love with someone and you wanna make that bond stronger. But in reality if you get married, you are a liability for your partner. If your partner is hospitalized, who makes the important decisions if they cannot? Their husband or wife in most cases, and if gay couples never get those rights then their partner cannot make that decision.
Originally Posted by Kyure
There hasn't been any evidence that people are born gay, so I personally would believe that it could be based on environment factors or something like that. I think those that are gay 'become' gay very early on, resulting in their realization of sexual orientation later in life however. Ultimately, why does it even matter?
Gay people don't have a choice whether or not they want to be gay; that's just the way it is. There is no 'reversal process', and anyone who claims there is, is a religious fanatic. It's not like a gay person just decides one day, "Hm, I'm gay". It's a gradual thing that people come to realize, some earlier, some later. It's stupid to restrict rights on someone who can't control who they are. It's the same argument people used to slave black people, based on religious texts and the sort.
"Brainwashing by pro-gay influences" is just laughable. Tons of people grow up in areas where you are specifically taught that it is wrong to be gay, and end up being gay anyways. Someone's sexuality isn't your business, and everyone deserves the same basic rights, regardless of their sexuality or race.
I'd like to refute the fact that there is no evidence that people are born gay.
