sir Moderated Message: |
This discussion derailed from Alts in Beginner Rooms suggestion: http://forum.toribash.com/showthread.php?t=587773 |
ToriAgents were the exact same thing as HelpSquad now.
Adding yet another staff group wouldn't make things any better.
there should be a higher-up in charge if we discuss giving HS halfop as TAs had.
I can't help but agree with Sir in this situation. HS should just get all the rights to infract alts and the problem would be solved with that. If ToriAgents get brought back then HS would sort of lose purpose to supervise beginner rooms and TA would only take over most of what we're doing now.
I don't think it would really be a problem to elect/find a person in charge of this group in that case. For all I know every HS member is a mature person with no intentions to abuse their power or such, the person in charge would probably only be required as mentor or such to teach the new rules/duties.
Help Squad is to the help and support boards as Market Squad is to the market boards.
The Help Squad are forum based, and the ToriAgents are ingame-based
Finding an outdated quotation to "prove" your thoughts doesn't actually make you right, sorry. Staff members probably know what they do a little bit better; if you're being told that current HS duties are basically the same as those of TAs, it means that they are. They have access to beginner lobby, they sit there and help people, the only little difference is that they're not given halfop.
The point is, it is not what they were designed for. The Help Squad wasn't intended to work both in game and in forums, so why are you adding on extra pressures, when you already know the vast majority of the community want the return of the very group who were covering this job?
It is clear a vast amount more want it to happen than not, so why are you fighting the community?
TAs' original job wasn't to serversit in beginner rooms, I hope you know that. They started doing it and changed from an "ingame police" group to "beginner helpers" when it became clear that the latter aids the community more.
Once again, quality usually overweighs quantity (and this case is no exception) - I highly doubt that adding more staff groups is going to be beneficial unless there is a job that really stands out from all what current staff has.
People asking for TAs now are either people who didn't manage to get in ES / HS and now think it's their chance or those who don't know what current HS duties are. If the only thing you care about is the group name and not what it actually does, why would your ideas be considered?
hmm