Originally Posted by Turtlenecks
Anyways, don't you start, Deprav. Cow was just arguing that words have emotional connotations, whether some people recognise them or not. If you're talking about something else, then quote it and counter it properly.
Exactly and he's doing it rightly so. If I interpret the word "emotional" in a way that may offend me or someone else, who's problem is it? Surely I can't blame you for using a word correctly. But on the other hand, it is YOUR responsibility to make sure I don't interpret your use of the word inappropriately. Right?
I'm not starting shiz, really. It's just a thing that happened numerous time in a previous dicussion I had with Cow (the one about currency n stuff), and that was just bringing more confusion instead of making the discussion progress. I'm just saying he should watch out for this, giving some other meanings to what people say generally pisses them off and "break" the discussion.
It's just a random advice, it can only make the futur discussions more enriching.
It's just a random advice, it can only make the futur discussions more enriching.
Originally Posted by deprav
Cow, I'm not the only one telling you that you make assumptions about what people say instead of really trying to understand what they mean. You should work on this, that's not good.
That's because people don't understand what they are saying, or can't understand basic logic.
The two most common failures people make are;
A. Not having basic language skills. Words have specific meanings and connotations, as well as emotional attachments. Calling someone a terrorist has a specific meaning, but one must be aware that it also carries emotional attachments - anyone who thinks of terrorist will automatically think of the US, the middle east, Muslims, bombs, etc. It may not be appropriate to call someone a terrorist, even if they fit the technical definition. In case you are wondering, emotional bias is the primary reason that words change definitions with time - it's why words are marked as 'swear' or 'cuss' words, and it's why people have such a reaction to 'swag'.
B. Not thinking it through. People often say something without thinking of the implications or logical extensions. Often they commit multiple logical fallacies. There are few people on this board who are actually aware of how they draw conclusions. Being able to consciously think allows you to assess your thought process. I'm sure you've seen the classic pictures where someone says one thing, and another person replies "Implying that XXX", only to have the first person get mad and say "I never said that!".
Originally Posted by JayStar
I shouldn't have to think about how people may interpret the word "terrorist". That's up to the person reading.
What is the point in writing something if you don't expect it to be read?
Stop posting, you are completely offtopic and are trying to push your own personal opinion on to the way that language has worked for thousands of years. You can't magically change it by saying "but I'm lazy, I don't like thinking".
