Originally Posted by boStaff
wtf? are you gay or otherwise non-conventionally oriented? how the fuck do you know it's "lost its meaning"?? have you been a victim of hate speech in your entire life? i imagine not, so how the fuck would you know how it feels to be called a slur like that?
"are you gay or otherwise non-conventionally oriented?"
No.
"how the fuck do you know it's "lost its meaning"??"
Because generally kids don't use the word 'fag' in its accepted connotation. Now most use it to describe somebody they simply dislike.
"have you been a victim of hate speech in your entire life? i imagine not, so how the fuck would you know how it feels to be called a slur like that?"
How the fuck is that even relevant?
Originally Posted by Note
If you have to discuss if it's allowed or not, it shouldn't be.
I don't even know why we're arguing and making this personal. This discussion thread is about a word that is used negatively to insult a person.
A word that is used negatively to insult a person.
Ban it and actually make this a step towards a palatable game community instead of a bunch of edgy boys.
goodbye cruel world
No, Note, it's about using the word when you're not using it to negatively insult a person. It's about context, which you've completely ignored in your eagerness to shut down any discussion about the topic.
"If you have to discuss if it's allowed or not, it shouldn't be". That is laughably ignorant logic. By that logic, no laws would change ever. Say goodbye to gay marriage, say goodbye to civil rights, say goodbye to women's rights.
Don't post here again if all you're going to say is "This discussion is stupid/triggerering me, close it". Refer to context (the basis of this thread). If you believe that context doesn't mean anything to how words should be received, then go ahead and make that argument and make sure you justify it.
"If you have to discuss if it's allowed or not, it shouldn't be". That is laughably ignorant logic. By that logic, no laws would change ever. Say goodbye to gay marriage, say goodbye to civil rights, say goodbye to women's rights.
Don't post here again if all you're going to say is "This discussion is stupid/triggerering me, close it". Refer to context (the basis of this thread). If you believe that context doesn't mean anything to how words should be received, then go ahead and make that argument and make sure you justify it.
Originally Posted by MintCat
How the fuck is that even relevant?
what's the reason you don't call people slurs again? hmm, might be because it's literal hate speech. that might just be why racial slurs are banned. because it's fucking hate speech.
I don't care how many times your dumb straight friends have thrown around the term "faggot" at each other, it doesn't change the fact that people have been driven to suicide and isolation due to others using that word towards them.
imagine, if you're capable, that you were a person of color. i dont expect you to understand what it's like to be treated the way black people are in western civilization (obviously I don't either), but imagine spending your life being berated with a word made up by those of a privileged race literally to address you as less than human. inb4 hurr racism doesnt exist anymore
then you go on an internet forum and see that people are defending the right to use it because "it doesnt mean anything anymore". but just because it doesnt "mean anything" to some white yuppie kids doesn't mean it suddenly magically no longer hurts you to hear it. ever notice how the people who defend everyone using these words are never among the same people the words were directed at?
who the fuck are you to say "faggot" doesn't "mean" anything?
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Originally Posted by boStaff
what's the reason you don't call people slurs again? hmm, might be because it's literal hate speech. that might just be why racial slurs are banned. because it's fucking hate speech.
I don't care how many times your dumb straight friends have thrown around the term "faggot" at each other, it doesn't change the fact that people have been driven to suicide and isolation due to others using that word towards them.
imagine, if you're capable, that you were a person of color. i dont expect you to understand what it's like to be treated the way black people are in western civilization (obviously I don't either), but imagine spending your life being berated with a word made up by those of a privileged race literally to address you as less than human. inb4 hurr racism doesnt exist anymore
then you go on an internet forum and see that people are defending the right to use it because "it doesnt mean anything anymore". but just because it doesnt "mean anything" to some white yuppie kids doesn't mean it suddenly magically no longer hurts you to hear it. ever notice how the people who defend everyone using these words are never among the same people the words were directed at?
who the fuck are you to say "faggot" doesn't "mean" anything?
To ban "faggot" is to follow the idea that general hate speech should be banned. Now, that simply can't be done.
When hate speech is directed towards a specific group/classification of people, then it's a bigger problem and much more personal. This can be done because it's easier to identify these words and there's less of them.
"Nigger" has only evolved to the extent of "nigga" being used as gangsta slang. Apparently that's fine because blacks themselves use it. Now, that goes for homosexuals too. I've heard them call each other faggots. This is because of the fact that their homosexuality is not a hot-topic any more.
Let's be honest with each other, we have yet to read "nigger" being used in an acceptable context.
The trouble is, you can't simply lump every single word as "hate speech" because it offends. Every word has its own effects and history, which should be taken into account.
Nigger is significantly worse than faggot, and I stand by that.
Last edited by MintCat; Nov 30, 2015 at 01:09 PM.
