Originally Posted by
TopShadow
Irelia is already FOTM because of CumshotQQ
She's not OP, do people not know how to counter a jungle?
She's borderline OP. Too easy to play for how much she gives you, imo.
Try solo top/mid irelia with lantern, then trinity force, then tank items, don't jungle with her - she's similar to Xin Zhao in terms of jungle viability - why do a decent jungle when you can have an excellent laning champ?
You won't get forced out of the lane except in cases of extraordinary harassment - such as a malph + ashe (You can sustain harassment from a solo Malph or Ashe very easily with irelia) lane or similar, and even then you'll still manage many last hits. Since you're so sustainable it's possible to farm as well as Sivir or Anivia on her. By mid game you'll be bursting champs down from full hp, tanking three for at least 5 seconds, by late game you'll be melting everything but tanks in seconds, while being tanky enough to survive at least 10 seconds in a teamfight, enough for her to kill a none-tank or two while being focused. Oh, CC doesn't work against her, sorry.
The only thing you can really do against her is kite - but that's why you pair Irelia with strong initiation champs like Malph or Amumu. Just watch Wickd's stream if you don't believe me.
On the Shaco question, what I dislike about him is that you must have a good early game - otherwise you won't be very useful in team fights. Thankfully, he's got great counter jungle capabilities along with great ganking - so most of the time you'll manage to pull off a good early game, however it's simply very easy to mess up against a good team.