well i wasnt here in this game during 2012, so im genuinely not sure what you mean by that. I’m not degrading Mack’s tricking, everybody prefers different things, and while bouncenotramp looks more realistic his abs dont help with that. however, the idea of putting a variation on that dub was merely that, an idea, something id like to see done when tricking today is criticized for being boring and more of the same. i still fall into that category because i havent been in the tricking scene nearly long enough to do anything of the sort myself. still, mack being a seasoned tricker, i’d like to see something just a little different. if either of you took my cnc offensively, i apologize, thats not what im aiming for. i just want tricking to get better in this game.